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#932671 - 06/22/15 03:25 PM Pete Rose....HOF or not?
Sol Duc Offline
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I've always thought that he should never be shrined in the HOF. It came out today that not only did he bet as a manager he also bet while he was a player which to me is even more shady. He'll have a hard time after this latest news of being elected. He sure was fun to watch though. Discuss.....

Link to his stats:

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/r/rosepe01.shtml


Edited by Sol Duc (06/22/15 03:29 PM)
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#932672 - 06/22/15 03:30 PM Re: Pete Rose....HOF or not? [Re: Sol Duc]
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I don't know for sure. If he bet on games, and it can be shown that he actually affected the outcome in order to win bets, then keep him out. If he didn't change his play to affect the outcome, then the suspension/ban to this point has probably been enough. Same with Shoeless Joe. But, that fact that the druggies actually tried to change how they played the game should keep them out.

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#932673 - 06/22/15 03:38 PM Re: Pete Rose....HOF or not? [Re: Sol Duc]
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When I visited the HOF I was surprised at how well represented he was. All sorts of bats and gloves and other memorabilia for all of his milestones were in the museum section. The only thing that was missing was his bust in the Hall section. Since he's acted like a total asshat ever since he was banished I think that's enough.
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#932676 - 06/22/15 03:49 PM Re: Pete Rose....HOF or not? [Re: BroodBuster]
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Originally Posted By: BroodBuster
When I visited the HOF I was surprised at how well represented he was. All sorts of bats and gloves and other memorabilia for all of his milestones were in the museum section. The only thing that was missing was his bust in the Hall section. Since he's acted like a total asshat ever since he was banished I think that's enough.

I agree, if he would have come out when the SHTF and apologized this probably wouldn't have snow balled and with most people having short memories and wanting to forgive he probably would be in some day. He was and is his worst enemy.

He is banned for life, does this mean he can't even go to any MLB stadium or anything associated with MLB? I'm pretty sure that's the case....does anyone know for sure?
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#932678 - 06/22/15 03:55 PM Re: Pete Rose....HOF or not? [Re: Sol Duc]
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just means he can't be employed or associated with any MLB or minor league team. Along with being barred from being inducted in the HOF. He can go to a game anytime.
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#932684 - 06/22/15 05:04 PM Re: Pete Rose....HOF or not? [Re: Sol Duc]
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betting doesnt make you hit....
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#932686 - 06/22/15 05:39 PM Re: Pete Rose....HOF or not? [Re: Sol Duc]
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Job or in line for public assistance for Evo?

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#932687 - 06/22/15 06:41 PM Re: Pete Rose....HOF or not? [Re: Sol Duc]
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Let him in.... As long as it didnt effect the outcome of games.
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#932688 - 06/22/15 06:52 PM Re: Pete Rose....HOF or not? [Re: Bent Metal]
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He has 4000 hits. I mean come on. Let him in.

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#932692 - 06/22/15 08:06 PM Re: Pete Rose....HOF or not? [Re: Sol Duc]
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In, or baseball is a fuckin' joke.

Yeah.

It is,
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#932740 - 06/23/15 03:09 PM Re: Pete Rose....HOF or not? [Re: Sol Duc]
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Exactly baseball used to be a mans game to play and watch . Now like most sports its run by a bunch of squat to pee's . A guy named Fay investigated Rose for Christ sake.

The should let him in the hall of fame and allow whisky shots and cigars in the dug outs during games.
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#932802 - 06/23/15 09:25 PM Re: Pete Rose....HOF or not? [Re: Sol Duc]
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No HOF.
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#932831 - 06/24/15 12:00 AM Re: Pete Rose....HOF or not? [Re: NickD90]
RobertF
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Ty Cobb beat a guy in a wheelchair and was quoted as saying " I don't care if he got no legs" and he got in,on his baseball acheivements,not for his character. Therefore baseball,being a game of stats and numbers,Rose should be a [Bleeeeep!] shoe in. Enough time has passed. Let it go.

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#932847 - 06/24/15 09:06 AM Re: Pete Rose....HOF or not? [Re: Sol Duc]
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As long as he bet to WIN let him IN!
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#932876 - 06/24/15 12:32 PM Re: Pete Rose....HOF or not? [Re: ]
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Ban Brady, he cheats


Only Penny has the BanHammer power to ban Brady.

I say put Rose in the HOF. He earned it.
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#932890 - 06/24/15 01:32 PM Re: Pete Rose....HOF or not? [Re: GutZ]
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Originally Posted By: GutZ
As long as he bet to WIN let him IN!


this.
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#932892 - 06/24/15 01:36 PM Re: Pete Rose....HOF or not? [Re: Sol Duc]
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Rose in. Shady Brady out. Good luck,

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#932893 - 06/24/15 01:51 PM Re: Pete Rose....HOF or not? [Re: Sol Duc]
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No - you do not reward breaking the rules or you further erode the ethics of the game. A-Rod, Bonds, McGuire and Sosa also got a lot of hits and didn't hurt anybody - do they also get to get in? Brady shouldn't either for that matter. Cheating and doing wrong is cheating and doing wrong. It's black and white - there are no shades of gray here. Sheesh...have some standards people. America is doomed. grin
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#932894 - 06/24/15 01:54 PM Re: Pete Rose....HOF or not? [Re: Sol Duc]
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every athlete is looking for an edge, some take one route, others take another....

happens from Drag Racing to 10 speed racing, Tennis to Ping Pong...

everyone cheats....
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#932896 - 06/24/15 02:01 PM Re: Pete Rose....HOF or not? [Re: Sol Duc]
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Why even keep records then? So "everyone cheats" makes it ok? Something...something if your friends jumped off a bridge...

Ok then...good to know....carry on with the long downward slide into moral oblivion.

GET OFF MY LAWN!



Edited by NickD90 (06/24/15 02:01 PM)
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