How 'bout Biden/Michelle Obama? It would be one giant step for mankind up from the McCain/Sarah Palin nomination, and would make it twice as difficult for the GOP to get their "Boner" into the Oval Orifice.

A giant step?

He is a special interest group!

The Republicans have really dug a deep hole. They've spent the last 8 years trying to pull Obama down and yet the economy is recovering, Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, General Motors all recovered. Remember how the Republicans said those were ridiculous moves? (Loaning them money.) The unemployment rate in my county is in the low 5s. The country in general has the lowest unemployment rate in decades. Now they are trying to pull Hillary down and it will backfire like so many of their screw-ups! As I have said all along people need to do the research from reliable sources. It should be said I am not a big Hillary fan BUT no one has the overall experience she does.

Colon Powell said the other day that he and Condie Rice used their personal e-mails in the same way as Hillary has. No one will EVER satisfy the masses completely so it's a sort of pick the best of the worst. We have a president that actually gives a sh!t. He may not be right on all matters but his intentions are good. The thing that is funniest but also ironically sad is the very people that vote Republican (with the exception of the very wealthy) are the ones that get bent over the worst! They are a party of protecting the wealthy and of course big business. Their regard for the future is minimal. It's all about the money and the money RIGHT NOW!

I refuse to be labelled as a Republican or Democrat. I'm conservative in some areas and liberal in others. We should probably dump the whole party system and vote for the person and not the party. The vote should be the popular vote and no other method. The people need to decide.

This is why the country is in the state its in , people belive the propaganda . What are your reliable sources NBC? The economy in real numbers has shown the lowest growth under any president in history. real GDP is negative under this govt( I won't blame Obama for the whole thing it's both parties) . True unemployment is 30 + % with over 90 million people out of the work force and all time record numbers on disability. Inflation is also astronomical most things that people need to live are not included in the inflation calculation. Almost all of the formulas used to calculate performance have been adjusted. Only three things in the economy have been showing growth growth 1. Govt printing money, 2 govt Spending, 3. Govt using printed money to covertly buy stocks snd prop up the markets to create the illusion of economic strength.
Hillary has never done a fukking thing, foreign policy is a disaster because of her, she cannot even manage her marriage . She is no more qualified than the rest of the asshokes running. The only reason any of them get anywhere is the country is full of useful idiots that swallow and don't think.

" yet the economy is recovering, Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, General Motors all recovered. Remember how the Republicans said those were ridiculous moves? (Loaning them money.) The unemployment rate in my county is in the low 5s. The country in general has the lowest unemployment rate in decades. Now they are trying to pull Hillary down and it will backfire like so many of their screw-ups! As I have said all along people need to do the research from reliable sources. It should be said I am not a big Hillary fan BUT no one has the overall experience she does.

It's also why Trump is popular. He is nothing more than a big FU to the whole process. No one cares where he stands on the issues, no one cares what he would do in office they just want to blow the whole shat house down and start over.

No irony there.

Us and Them, that entire post is directly off of Fox News...and only Fox News viewers believe it...they work themselves into a lather, think they are "real" Americans and that everyone thinks that way...and then express genuine surprise when they find that they are in the minority.

Trump's "popularity" is making the GOP the laughingstock of the world.

Again.

He probably won't get the nomination...but would get annihilated in the general election if he does.

Fish on...

Todd

Shirley, I was jesting in the previous post. What should really happen in 2016 is the courts should give the Presidency to Al Gore. Administer justice and replace the one that was stolen in 2000. Right a wrong. Why wait a hundred years for history to sort it out, and some future Congress to issue Woulda-Coulda-Shoulda Al an apology posthumously? Let us not treat the man who invented the interweb the way we've treated black slaves, interned Japanese, overworked Chinese, oppressed Native Americans, and Walmart associates, in general. The rallying cry for the 2016 Presidential election should be, "GIVE IT TO GORE!"

In case you've forgotten: http://www.michaelparenti.org/stolenelections.html

Classic responses from wanker and Todd attack the messenger not the message.

Do yourselves a favor go to https://nces.ed.gov/partners/fedstat.asp

You will find links to US gov stats . Look at actual GDP for all presidents by year. Back out Govt spend for each year and tell us who has the lowest historical GDP numbers. You also have to account for changes to how GDP is calculated because the current admin changed it in 2013. Ask yourself Why would that happen?

Do the same for employment go to the BLS pull the abstracts and go back and calculate it how they used to do it . Be generous and do it the way they did it under Bill Clintons admin.

Do the same for inflation. U.S. The old method prior to 1980. Why would food , fuel, be left out of the inflation numbers.

Now let's look at real wage growth over the last 10 years. Maybe that's why most new car sales are actually leases.

Take a drive down through tikwila and Kent and look at all the empty warehouse spaces and shuttered business. How could that be in such a strong recovery?

One last thing gooey claimed that the republicans all opposed TARP et all. You all claim that the rich republicans always want to rape and pillage the little guys why would they oppose TARP QE etc when by all accounts the 1% has benefitted 1000-1 over the 99% because of these programs? Seems logical if they wanted to FUk the little guys that they would support it, no?

If Fox News has been saying this ,which I doubt they have you should start watching it. I seriously doubt they have because they are invested in the same system as the dems. They just want to spend tax money on something different.

Labor participation rate



http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS11300000


66.2% jan 2008
62.6 % July 2015

Quick math says 12m plus people are not working since Obama took office. Boom! The economy is so strong they all retired and are living the dream.

To be fair I doubt it would have been much different under Romney . Regardless he would have had to spend the trillions for little real difference. Our economy is driven by consumerism now not manufacturing so the base line is approaching reL unemployment once you stop the spending. Probably half the population would not be working at that point. If anyone has kids or grandkids I feel sorry for them if they don't have millions in trust.

They attacked the messenger because he's (you're) a fuckin' idiot, Elvis.

So fu.ck off.

The economy has performed best with a Democrat in the White House and the GOP in control of Congress over the last 7 or 8 decades. One party in control of both has not turned out well.

You never bitched about food and fuel not being used to calculate the CPI when a Republican was in the WH because you're a GOP ballwasher. They aren't factored in because energy prices are automatically reflected in the price of everything else, you fuckhead...........and it's been calculated the same way for more than 30 years, so stop pretending it's some conspiracy to make Obama look good.

Your intellectual dishonesty is hilarious. Get the GOP cock out of your mouth.

"The economy has performed best with a Democrat in the White House and the GOP in control of Congress over the last 7 or 8 decades. One party in control"

Meaningless historical point. It was good until it wasn't yay! Kind of like your life.


"it's been calculated the same way for more than 30 years,"

You are just above ignorant so this is a lie not an error or an I don't know. It used to be a COGI it's now a COLI. Fuel used to be on the basket along with food now it's not. Does that sound the same to anyone not from Shelton? Raise your hand if it does.

So it's the same only different only if you are a stupid FUk.
Look it up Kunt and learn something.

I'd look up c.unt, but I already know it's your assface there with the definition.

Whine about the inflation calculation again, drippy cu.nt. Maybe they'll change it because you sniveled like the bitch you are.

No they won't - because they know nothing will keep you from being the crying pussy you are.

What sounds the same to me is you making excuses for being a faggot, when all you'd have to do is shut the cocksucker on your face, and nobody would notice.

Go fu.ck yourself, you old pussy.

Unemployment......what a fukin joke. Try running a business and finding qualified, skilled people with work ethic! Too many lazy, worthless deadbeats out there who can't show up on time and want top pay for no effort. There is a ton of work out there for motivated people....

The economy won't fix itself when the available work force is worthless.... Outsourcing and Mehico....in

Yes... but the problem is, you need to find a ton of "high paying" non-skilled work for the unmotivated...

Skatehook said he wouldn't work for anything less than 25.00 an hour. And won't travel more than a few miles from his trailer.

I think you meant walking distance...


hillary voter for sure... "Change you don't have to work for"

Exactly.