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#939304 - 09/18/15 08:00 PM Volkswagen "clean" diesels
AP a.k.a. Kaiser D Offline
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Crazy story about how all half million 2 liter Diesel engines from 2009+ were programmed to detect when the emissions test was taking place and only run clean during the test. The rest of the time, it could emit "10 to 40 times allowable pollution".

Consumer Reports said Volkswagen “was ripping off the consumer and hurting the environment at the same time".

Facing up to $18 Billion in fines plus criminal charges, which will never happen of course.


http://www.detroitnews.com/story/busines...rules/72401296/

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#939305 - 09/18/15 08:02 PM Re: Volkswagen "clean" diesels [Re: AP a.k.a. Kaiser D]
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good fuk em I hope they are held accountable. I will never buy another German car anyhow, they are a drain on the wallet, and apparently the environment too.
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#939306 - 09/18/15 08:08 PM Re: Volkswagen "clean" diesels [Re: AP a.k.a. Kaiser D]
Todd Offline
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I saw that one today...that's a serious asswhoopin' they are in for right now...all the cars have to be recalled and fixed, too.

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#939307 - 09/18/15 08:20 PM Re: Volkswagen "clean" diesels [Re: AP a.k.a. Kaiser D]
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They already did the recall and, apparently, it didn't work. The question now is CAN the company actually fix it with software? I suspect they can and will but the obvious end result will be a reduction in performance and various specs on the cars which I'd think would open them up to class action lawsuits from customers. It would also be interesting, although probably futile, to see a class lawsuit by their customers simply for being mislead on the environmental aspects of the cars. That might come down to customers proving they were "harmed", either through being physically exposed to undisclosed pollution or even through some "I'm emotionally hurt at the damage I unknowingly did". That lawsuit would be mildly comical but there seem to be a lot of people willing to give the lawsuit lotto a go.

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#939308 - 09/18/15 08:30 PM Re: Volkswagen "clean" diesels [Re: AP a.k.a. Kaiser D]
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Originally Posted By: AP a.k.a. Kaiser D
Crazy story about how all half million 2 liter Diesel engines from 2009+ were programmed to detect when the emissions test was taking place and only run clean during the test. The rest of the time, it could emit "10 to 40 times allowable pollution".



who knew Volkswagen would be the first company to develop AI...



glad I dont have to deal with emissions testing

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#939317 - 09/18/15 09:55 PM Re: Volkswagen "clean" diesels [Re: ]
Sol Duc Offline
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Oh the horror. crazy
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#939318 - 09/18/15 10:53 PM Re: Volkswagen "clean" diesels [Re: Sol Duc]
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I had a 64' bus, my Dad called it a 4 speed Nazi footlocker.

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#939322 - 09/19/15 07:34 AM Re: Volkswagen "clean" diesels [Re: AP a.k.a. Kaiser D]
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If they pay the fine it should go to the consumers but it won't, the fine will disappear into a bottomless pit.
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