#940264 - 10/05/15 03:19 PM
Re: Mass Shooting in Roseburg
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#940268 - 10/05/15 04:57 PM
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I'm Idaho!
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Good parents raise good kids. Seems fairly simple. pretty much this
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#940270 - 10/05/15 05:46 PM
Re: Mass Shooting in Roseburg
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Once again Nick is on the right track...great list, but sadly it's just for starters.
ANYONE who would commit such a heinous act as shooting people is clearly mentally unstable. Blaming the weapon used is no different than blaming the car of a drunk driver after it kills someone in a head-on.
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#940294 - 10/06/15 05:27 AM
Re: Mass Shooting in Roseburg
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In 2010, alcohol was involved in 2,020 (or 47.2 percent) of pedestrian fatalities, 11,087 (or 39.9 percent) of vehicle occupant fatalities, 209 (or 33.8 percent) of pedal cyclist fatalities (as shown in Figure 2). Pedestrians are more vulnerable than highway vehicle occupants are. In addition, drivers involved in traffic crashes that resulted in pedestrian fatalities had less than two-thirds the rate of alcohol involvement as did the pedestrians killed.
Similarly, alcohol can impair a boaters judgment, balance, vision, and reaction time.6 The U.S. Coast Guard reported 154 recreational boating fatalities (or 22.9 percent) which involved alcohol use as a contributing factor in 2010 (as shown in Figure 3).
Blame alcohol--- ban alcohol.
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#940312 - 10/06/15 10:18 AM
Re: Mass Shooting in Roseburg
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birth is the #1 cause of death...
Ban Sex
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#940321 - 10/06/15 11:04 AM
Re: Mass Shooting in Roseburg
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My Area code makes me cooler than you
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9 people will never have sex again.
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#940333 - 10/06/15 12:22 PM
Re: Mass Shooting in Roseburg
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Does anyone here have any stats on how many lives are saved or crimes prevented by people with guns using them to protect themselves and others? It happens more often than you think and more often than the national media reports.
Depending on the study (low / mid / high estimates), a good middle ground average is about 1 million DGU's per year. The FBI stats are in that same ballpark. Here's some additional ballparked stats. I'm too lazy to link everything, so you if disagree, then by all means use Google. 33K gun deaths per year. 20K are suicides 1K are accidental 10K are homicides 5K of homicides are committed by minorities (black on black street crime et al.) When you remove Suicides, accidents and gangbangers, the US becomes one of the safest countries in the world. If just 10% of all DGU's resulted in deaths (by removal of DGU's) that's 100K dead people that could not defend themselves. This is equates to a 900% increase in gun deaths by removing the right to bear arms for defensive purposes. Guns save FAR more lives than they take.
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#940334 - 10/06/15 12:34 PM
Re: Mass Shooting in Roseburg
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BTW - Obama in his rush to politicize this latest shooting said he would in fact politicize it to the fullest extent possible AND that we should all make it a single issue voting decision.
Obama is currently seeking and working on EO gun restrictions. Hillary already came out and said she would use EO's on this if she's elected. Sanders the same. O'Malley is even worse than Clinton or Sanders. The SC has already ruled on this. As per the Oath of the Office, they must defend the laws of the land regardless if they believe in said laws or not.
Ok then. As an independent, I will not be voting Dem this go around. On this issue and this issue alone, I will be voting for Trump.
IMO - The Dems just lost the WH in 2016 this week. Trump 2016. Book it.
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#940335 - 10/06/15 12:41 PM
Re: Mass Shooting in Roseburg
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Bring on the blue dresses!!!
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#940344 - 10/06/15 01:22 PM
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BTW - Trump 2016. Book it. $100 confident for Trump wins the general election? If so, I'm in.
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#940345 - 10/06/15 01:23 PM
Re: Mass Shooting in Roseburg
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My Area code makes me cooler than you
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Trump should buy the White House, remodel it, and sell it for a profit.
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#940349 - 10/06/15 01:35 PM
Re: Mass Shooting in Roseburg
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Trump should buy the White House, remodel it, claim bankruptcy and make the taxpayers pay for it. fixed that for you... ironically the taxpayers would save in the long run
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#940352 - 10/06/15 01:47 PM
Re: Mass Shooting in Roseburg
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AP - I'm not going to place that bet (yet). It's too early. I will say this, the Dems lost my and many others votes this week with their utter and complete nonsense. Not the biggest fan of Trump, but he's about the only one that's addressed this issue correctly. Obama said to make it a single issue vote, so I will.
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#940378 - 10/06/15 04:02 PM
Re: Mass Shooting in Roseburg
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Maybe AP. Cash is tight for me these days and needed for other efforts. Maybe in a month or two. We still have a LONG time before the primaries.
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#940385 - 10/06/15 04:45 PM
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Gov Cuomo of NY has the best idea I've heard yet. He wants to shut down government until such time "meaningful" gun laws are passed.
I can support that!
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#940387 - 10/06/15 04:59 PM
Re: Mass Shooting in Roseburg
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Cash is tight for me these days... No wonder you support Trump! You believe he'll magically make us all rich. I suppose your lack of betting is still a classy stand compared to someone like Redhook and Sol Duc who would make the bet and simply fail to pay up. Despite the earthquake-style warnings on the dark side, I managed to keep Obama from taking my guns and money. It's a (war on) Christmas miracle!
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