I know that this is a fishing web site,but hey if we can discuss politics and such we should be able to talk about something really interesting and close to my heart Bow hunting for Elk
As much as enjoy sneaking up on a summerun in low clear conditions.
There is nothing on this planet like bugeling in a big Bull Elk within bow range .
Having a bull answer you're call ,feeling the hair and the back of neck stand up,you're heart begins to pound.... Oh my goodness I have to calm myself down here, those of you that bow hunt for elk know what I'm talking about .
Those of you that chose to chase salmon during this time...great,I also big my rod for those lazy afternoons around camp,I mean the river is full of Salmon ,right next to our camp ,someone has to catch them
Besides having a fresh Salmon filet on the fire after a hard day hunting is not a bad way to end the day AHHHHH cold brew, good fish, bugeling Elk...God I love this.
Any Bow hunting fishing buddies out there?
sept.1st I am there
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Ya i`m starting to get the itch too .. Here in Oregon we start the 26th of Aug , and last threw Sept ... Can anybody give me there thoughts on carbons , going to try carbons this year with my new Mathews MQ1 .. Been shooting them for a couple of months , and really like them . I was wondering about any problems like pentration , I`ve heard good and bad .. I say if you hit in the vitals shouldn`t have a problem ...

Hey Osprey, good to see another bowhunter here. Just in case you haven't discovered it yet, the Bowsite is a great forum for bowhunters, and has a WA state board as well
http://www.bowsite.org/bowsite/tf/regional/threads.cfm?state=WA

I think if I could land salmon from my bowhunting camp my circuits would overload. Isn't the other name for that Heaven? I do the backpack thing and only hunt wilderness, although I shot a blacktail on my own place last year. The pack out was terrible, I had to go the barn for a wheelbarrow!

Tight lines and passthroughs,

Spurdog

I am a freak for bowhunting too. Will be going after my third bear with the old winged harpoon in two weeks. We gotta talk about this elk thing. I have wanted to do this forever. I think I would sprout timber and tip over if I had one of those ivory toothed devils come in to a call. I'll e-mail you tonight on the floats also. Tight lines and bow strings.

Your right osprey not much is more exciting than the shivers a screaming white back gives at 20 yards. Makes me want to grab the latex and go have some fun.

Steelie I have had good luck with the carbons. I shoot a full length Beman hunter arrow with fingers and the decreased weight really closes the pin distances. Penetration hasn't been a problem with the carbon in my experiences.
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Osprey,

well now that you got it going I'll jump in. I am looking forward to trying to fill my first bull permit this year. I went and looked over my erea last weekend and wee seen a few. as for fishing from camp. that has to be the best, I wounder if I know where you are hunting. Maybe next time I see you we will have to talk a little archery/elk


sorry I gotta drop this one again! LOL I am in one of those crz moods. Anybody have a fav. elk scent?

dcrzfitter

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I'm in too. Once you get an elk within thirty yards, screaming for the girls, you can almost (almost, but not quite) throw the rifles away.
I shoot a new Mathews with the dampeners built in (w/ release) it's incrediblely quiet. I'm also shooting the new tapered carbons. The combination is incredibly accurate. I shot a nock off the first set of four arrows out the bow!!!!

I can hardly wait!! I have an old Bear recurve 70# take down. One of my boys and I drew a good permit!!!! Been practicing with a cow call on the Sequim herd, (they work)!!!
Down Behind the Five, I didn"t know you flung arrows!!! Have you been on bowsite yet? How would you like to call some bears in, it is ALOT of fun!!!

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My Goodness, I think you guys could use cold shower and a washcloth to clean off your screen. I would think it is hard on the key board too! I have yet to try archery hunting. I have a friend who makes bows and hope he gets mine done soon, or finds one already done that will fit me. I have heard all about the "bumps" that form on a mad bull. So two years ago I bought a cheap bow and now I think I will try hunting with one. But it will be hard to put down my rifle. Opps said a bad word there. Sorry. Good luck all, I hope I can bag one this year. Thinking about using my .44 for the elk. That will be a blast. Will do archery next.

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Osprey and all,
Well this is bowhunting year number 22...nothing like going one on one.

14 elk
21 deer
1 bear (don't want anymore)

Can't wait...glad that I can hunt within a 1/2 mile of the house!

Jim

****ey
Bear calling sounds like a kick. If you need somebody to call for you let me know. Which tag did you get? The police hood ornaments? Got some nice photos of some biggies if you stop by work I will show you.
Too bad we don't have turkeys around here. I do a mean kiiiiyaaiiiing dog, rooster too ..... Makes for great camp noises. Even called hunters out of camp with the bugle....funny stuff to watch, provided you don't get shot.
Haven't been down to throw the bones in quite awhile....getting the shakes

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As on our board Os, I just gotta put your upper post into proper perspective here. As excited as Mike sounds about buggling in the big bull, he was even more excited when he told us, off the BB, how pumped he gets hunting wild sheep ..... armed only with his manhood!

Well Well look at all of us
I shoot a Hoyt Spectra Eclipse with fingers overdraw and thats it! no release no pins no extras it's small and fast I can pull up and have that 27' 2216 GG2 with a 125grn Thunderhead on it's way while a lot of guys are still tring to figure out which pin to chose (jk)
Bad news I just heard Weyerhauser is closing the woods ...WE need rain!!!
This won't stop me I'll just have to down size and pack in ..but I am going
Be safe have fun and most of all know you're limitations ,,,make sure you have a good shooting lane ...Have fun

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What I'm looking forward to this year is my 13 year old son's first hunt. He's had the fever since he had a prolonged conversation with a herd last year with his cow call, during scouting. He's working on getting his shots in a 6 inch circle, or he will just be my packer instead of a shooter. There's a bowhunting camp for kids in WA, that he has attended for the last two year--just a great group of people. Larry Jones always spends a couple of days there, and they have activities ranging from 3D shoots to following fake blood trails. We are getting out all our gear today, and scouting next weekend. Let's see, salmon...or elk...salmon...or elk. I'm going nuts.

One of my sons (5) and I put in for area 356 (Bumping) 330 cow permits given (Nov.1-5) for the smoke pole. I want to take mine with my BOW. I thought it would be the best chance to get drawn for a tag. Yes I do need a partner to call for bear, four eyes are better than two. The calling brings couger in also and they are real SNEAKY. I am in the middle of moveing right now so I will be getting back to soon. I want to see those pictures!!

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did you get that permit in the Bumping? was it for archery or muzle loader? Mine is for archery in that era (Goose praire)


dcrzfitter

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I want you to know I refuse to use my bow when telling the bear and cougar dinner is ready.

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I would love to get a bear or kitty with my BOW!!!! I would like to have the thunder stick with me just incase but gettin one of them with my bow would be a 1x thing that I don't think most will ever have the chance to do. and for telling them dinner is ready. what are you using for a dinner bell? just a normal rabit with a broken back call or is it little jingle bells on a stick or maybe little kid playing in the wooods alone sounds? what has worked best for you?

dcrzfitter

Any varmit call will do, you have to really sound like an animal that is DYING!! If you can see them nine times out of ten they will come RUNNING !!! If you do not see one you call for about 45 min. if nothing move on. Set up to call is the key. One has to WATCH the WIND I can't stess that enought!! Believe me this does work!! If you don't have a partner get a tree stand. You also want a big can of good pepper spray and it wouldn't be a bad idea to have a side gun (44). The closes one we shot with a bow was 7yds and we wasn't in a tree stand. Couger is another story.

Marty, that is alright with me. I know you will just love it. It is a BIG RUSH !! When they come to the call they come to EAT!!!

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I know this bites, but the law says you shall NOT have in you're possesion a firearm while bow hunting
Excuse ME but if I'm hunting something that thinks I'm food well then I am packin If I was to carry a sidearm while bow hunting it would a shoulder holster...That is ...If I was to
Remember not to hunt carnivors alone always bring a friend and make sure they are slower than you ,you don't to out run the bear ...just you friend thats why I'd bring...RT ...because as much as he fishes that bear won't even notice me
Oh thats right you can't use bait ...besides he'd eat all the donuts anyway

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Osprey,

If I am right that rule is for hunting things like dear and elk. Bear and cougar can be hunted with any weapon. so why would I not be able to pack the thunder stick and the bow? I am confused now.


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I have a rabit call. mayeb I will try it. I have talked to guys that have used them for yap dogs and they say it could end up in yer lap if yer not paying attention. I can imagine bear and cougar. WOW!!! 7 yards!!! my heart would be in my chest. I don't know if I could get the string back if I was ground level.

I really gotta try this. as for wind will they try and circle me? so should I have someone behind me?

dcrzfitter

Where does it say in the game laws you can't carry a side arm wial hunting bear and couger with a bow, I think not. If I am over looking the law please show me. Now if I am in a bow only area hunting deer or elk that is different story. Oh, by the way I didn't feel any bite.

Yes, they will try to wind you and you better be looking behind you if you are alone!! The bear will come out of nowhere, one second you will turn your head and turn back and there he is. A partner is always best if not use a tree stand.

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You are correct,it is legal to carry a fire arm during archery season specified for that area..what does this mean?
Never mind I have the regs in front of me

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The regs state that it is unlawfull to carry a modern firearm while hunting deer or elk with muzzleloaders or bows. I called the state a few years back on this and was told it is only on deer and elk. dcrzfitter had it right. Bear and cougar are any legal weapon. Since the topic of calls come up, has anyone ever hunted coyote's at night around here? It is legal, but I never tried it yet.

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Hey 'fitter, I noticed you drew the goose praire stick flingin tag. That is definately a good one. There are some real nice bulls, you should have a fun hunt.. You said you wanted to fish for salmon and hunt elk at he same time? Well you're in business, the American R. currently has quite a few springers spawning in it so if you wanted to catch one you will need a stout rod, 25lb. maxima, with large lead wrapped treble.. This way you can land the fish rather quickly before the meat falls off of his bones!! Ha Ha....Actually these fish are highly protected and the local wdfw agent probably would not have much of a sense of humor unless you handed over your pick-up as collateral.. If you were to reveal your HIGHLY sought after secret scent then maybe I could reveal some great elk haunts!!

Horn hunter,

Now you got my attention!!!

My dad has hunted this era for maybe 22 years but we are just starting to hunt it early season. we got them figured for late but we are still working on these guys for early. There are some really nice bulls but it's hard to get on them. we are going to hunt the last week of season as well as all the weekends. I can't remember the road number we will camp on but we have an awsome camp and if yer around stop in. I'll see if I can get that road number. we have hot shower so bring a towel and soap. There is nothing like HOT running shower every night in early or late season.

dcrzfitter

I live just down the road, road numbers don't mean a whole lot to me. I have never got used to recognizing an area by the rd. number. Tell me what the name of the area is and I'll know exactly where you are at. I'm assuming you are going to be in the Nile area if your camping around roads. THe Bumping area has very little in the way of road systems. Let me know either way and maybe I'll come give you some Sincere B.S. for a cold brew!!!!!!

Can't help it !!! Washington hunting???? I know you guys have a bunch of fish swimming around but when you want to talk elk... ya got nothing !!!! We have some elk over here !!! One of you guys posted how much stuff you have killed over the years... you should see the pile of bones in my garage !!! Most have been shot off the old homestead. We have a whitetail buck out back this year that looks about 160 + to me. He is living on borrowed time I can tell you that. Just gotta rib you guys. Two freinds that live in Tacoma come over and hunt the place with us every year. Your right!!! Its almost time

B-Run your right about that compared to Idaho, Wash.really stinks.I go into Big Creek every year and the Muleys are huge and if the snow really flies the Elk hunting is great.

B-Run, If I was you I wouldn't brag up your beloved state to much, I've hunted elk and deer in your state for 16yrs straight, I ve seen a terrible decline in the last 5 yrs in your elk herds! It amazes me to listen to your officials say they have better elk hunting then ever but they can't sell out Non-res. elk tags, something they used to sell out by mid-march!!!!They demand has declined because hunter success has declined.I know you will say that the overall success rate is as high as ever but that maybe due to hunters taking any legal bull..For several years my brother and I wouldn't pull the trigger unless it was a mature 6pt bull and now I find myself looking for any 5pt or better!! That is a huge change! Also, I may want to add that I've hunted many different areas thoughout your great state and it is truely a wonderful place to hunt, they just need to get alot tougher on the predators!!! Predation is the number one reason for your's and our decline in big-game numbers! It is all a part of the Peta's ANd anti's big picture to eliminate hunting as we know it! If the numbers of big-game decline to the point were we cannot sustain a hunting season then they have reached their objective! I could go on forever on this topic but I'll try not to waste to much of the fishermens time talking hunting... You hard-core demos should take a hard look at who the antis support!!!!! Trust me they don't want any Rep. in office because they are for the very thing we as hunters and fishermen stand for!!!! Put enviro. issues aside because I don't believe any politician is anti-enviro., some will just take a harder stance towards some of the issues that we have already debated...Thanks,

All I know is in the last 5 or 6 years since a lot of branched antler restictions went into effect,our hunting area a seen a considerable increase in bull to cow ratio ,I guess some of the states ideas are working I said some of them,
Just got a report from my partner they went scouting bugled in 3 branch bulls with in 1 mile from our camp.... I am soooooo pumped I can't control myself ,I need to get my bugle.
Tight lines and tight groups to all my bow hunting brothers.

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Right on Osprey,

I have told a few people the same thing. one of the only things I have seen the state do right is the branched antler restrictions. The erea we hunt in E. WA at one time you would be lucky to see a bull in the feed lot in the winter now hundreds are there every winter. It's still hard to find these bulls in hunting season but they are around.

we got to get our bugles out and get them going. we have been talking to some cows lately but we need to get the big boys going.

dcrzfitter

Osprey, Let me enlighten you onto acouple of facts concerning the branch antler restrictions that you are bragging up. First off I will tell you that I am talking about the Clockum and Yakima Elk herds..I am very familiar with the history of these areas. To begin with prior to our Branch antler resrictions(BAR) bull cow ratio averaged approx 3-8 bulls per hundred cows(according to the wdfg's figures). Currently our ratios have been around 12-14 bulls/cows(Yakima herd)Let me tell that the numbers given to us have always been on the low side! When the wdfg was doing their surveys in the early 90's I was also out there HIKING instead oof counting feedlot elk. I never failed to come up with at least 5-8 bulls/cows higher than there highest estimate!!!!! O.k now to the real point..Currently our elk herds are in WORSE shape overall than they were prior to spike only restrictions..Our numbers are high but the overall health of the herd isn't in good shape. Through the 80's and early 90's our cow/calve ratio averaged in the mid to upper 40's.. THis leads to excellent recruitment!!Some of the highest in the entire country!! We have been going backwards ever since!! Right now our cow/calve ratios are bumping on the low 30's!!!! This is cause for alarm! This year they didn't even offer Branch bull tags in the Clockum area. Why? Because they haven't been able to reach the level of recruitment that is neccesary to sustain a viable elk herd!! Now you may ask why is this? Well my featherfliggin friend the answer is real simple.. PREDATORS!!!!!! Since the lost off using hounds as a management tool our cougar population has exploded..The bears also kill an incredible amount of the new born calve elk and coyotes as always are opportunists. I will gaurentee you that if we don't do something that you guys will have zero big bull tags to apply for! Look at the BLue Mtns., huge elk but less than half of there carrying capacity!!! I've spent countless hrs and days watching hunting chasing, picking up horns ect....My opinions are from being out there, not from sitting behind some desks.Elk hunting has been my passion since I started hunting!! I take them very seriously just like you would a big native steelhead..Just because the feedlot looks better than it ever has doesn't mean that everything is going well.. I have alot more I would like to add but I am tired of pecking the [Bleeeeep!] out of my keyboard.. Osprey, I will add that if things were managed correctly that the BAR program would definately work. But as is nothing is going to work in the long run!!

Horn Hunter,

I think the point Osprey was trying to make is that the idea of controlling the amount of bulls taken has helped the BULL population. I think you have a very strond point with the predators. I have noticed the same, less calves and fawns. that is a big problem. with the cow/bull ratio up it's to bad the calves are not makeing it. one good thing about lots of cougars. they kill coyotes.

dcrzfitter

We used to hunt in a slide on the other side of Timber wolf Mt.It was about a 2mile hike in.Between the 8 0f us we never left with less then 5 bulls.All 5and 6 point.Now after 25 years of good hunting the guides have blazed a trail in and destroyed the hunting in that spot.They pack in on horses and set up camp right in the middle of the flat(one of the best spots to hunt).They would get run off bethel ridge and come right down threw the slid into the thick brush.I think that the Yak herd has been overhunted myself.I remember 1 year they caught a huge herd down in carol flats and killed 70 bulls in the first few hours.The hunting presure has slowed down alot so lets get out and kill them cougars and hope we can bring these elk back to bigger #'s.I say get rid of the spike only law.What I see is alot more bulls being killed.The spikes seem to run with the cows and arent smart enough yet to hide in the thick stuff till the smoke clears they mope around with the cows and end up dead.Lets put on a brow tined bull only law I think that would be more affective...TM

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Osprey, when I first posted to you about your remarks regarding the elk herd I didn't think about you're probably hunting the westside where you have 3pt. or better restrictions. My knowledge is about the eastside. However, I do want you to know that I tried hard for a 3pt or better restriction on our side but the head local bio.had it in his mind that the ONLY way to go was with the spike only..When a bio. testifies in front of the commision and says one thing and a private testifies another thing who do you think the commision will listen to? Not the uneducated private!!! Timberman, I have seen four huge harvests that have taken place in the lower bethal area(1973,82,91,94). Everytime we literally slaughtered our elk herd. I personally held and arranged meetings with the Region Bios. along with several commision members in order to change the time frame of the elk season. Now we start our elk season the last week of Oct. instead of the 1st week of Nov. This last week of Oct. is when we generally get the heavy early snows if it is going to happen. So hopefully, mothernature doesn't play tricks with history and throw some huge early snows on us anymore.

Timberman, I hate to question your elk hunting prowness but are you really serious about the 5&6pt bulls you killed for 25yrs?? I would believe you might of had a year or two with that kind of success but no way did you have that kind of success consistantly. If you would have said that you guys killed at least 5 bulls of various sizes(predominatly spikes and rag horns) I wouldn't be questioning your high success rates. But with mature bulls that barely existed, come on! Where you just trying to test my curiosity? If so than you were successful. I would like to add some valuable info. for the readers. I've fished the Nisqually for many years and have never failed to land at least 4 steelys over 20lbs to go with my complimentary limit of 40lb. kings. One trip acouple of years ago the fish were alittle small that year and I had to settle for acouple of 18lb steelys and a small limit of 35lb. kings. Bummer! Actually guys to set the record straight I have never even fished the Nasty! Just havin fun..

Steelyhorn I was up on the Clover Spring road and noticed they punched in some roads down into that hole on the east side of the road are they or have they been logging in there?

As a youth in the early 70s I also hunted the Bethel ridge area and witnessed the slauter ,and all the the damn hunters.
My area is over here on the west side .We have been hunting this area for 15 years I have watched this area grown leaps and bounds as far as Elk population.
This area is a brush nightmare but we take nice elk every year ,it's not for the weak at heart ( no wimps ),thats why we don't see many hunters ,but the Elk sure like it here.
Steelie Horn,I totally agree with you you're comment on cougars and bears ,I knew this was going to happen we need to control their poulation,heck I have pack of Coyotes that is terrorizing my property,I'm thinking of a rabbit distress call?
I can't comment on you're situation over there on the other side of the Big Hill,Although I do enjoy the Okanagon area for deer during rifle season though.
Next to a Bull elk ,I find the White tail buck to quite a foe to deal with.
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Come on O lets not cut everyone down just because your success hasnt been very good!!!!!!!!I said between all of us all bulls were 5-6point bulls not saying I killed one every year.We all made a deal that we wouldnt kill any5thing smaller but in the area I am speaking about it was all possible.If the guides blazed a trail in do you think it was a spike rag horn area????????If you want to see pictures let me know the next time you are down at the nasty I will bring them....But then again I need not prove myself to anyone.....As far as 30+# kings I landed 2 last week on a zipper.I have pictures of them also if interestedTM

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I'm sorry TM I just reread my post, I don't see anything that was address in a negative manner to anyone??? about lack of production ,weather or not i get a kill doesn't matter to me I just like to be out.All I said was there was too hunters in the Bethel area...did I miss something
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Lastcast, the area you are talking about is the glass cr. area( I think). Yes they were doing some logging in there. However, I was up in there earlier and didn't see any new roads built.They just used the same old existing ones..Also, I think that particular logger has moved his operation over in to the cowiche/tampico area.. Osprey, I think timberman was confusing you with me..I'm the one who questioned his earlier statements. Also, Timberman my neighbor is the outfitter who has the rights to that area(basically everything between the two passes plus some more). I'm quite certain he hasn't used any camps in that area as he maintains most of his hunters up in the bumping with a few satillite camps in the upper regions of both the north fork and the south fork the rattlesnake.However, I will most certainly ask him the next time we talk. I'm sorry if I offended you but your post sounded like you got at least 5 bulls every year. When I read that I thought/knew that was immpossible. I don't like to call B.S. on any buddy unless I know alittle bit about them but sometimes you have to make exceptions..

Sorry O I was talking to Horn hunter....What I said was between 8 men we always had at least 5 bulls by season end..My dad has hunted the same area for 35yrs and has only went home empty handed 7 yrs of those..This was an unbeleivable area that is why it angers me that it has been taken over by guides....TM

Timberman, I'm still alittle confused? Paul Wilson is the outfitter for the entire area incluyding the one you described. He only runs a very small amount of gun hunters in a season. Last year I think he guided 3 rifle hunters who had branch bull tags(maybe only 2 I'm not sure).. He does offer some drop camps that a few people take advantage of but most people aren't willing to fork over any money to just hunt spikes!! The only time I have seen an outfitter run wild up here was when Gene Morgan(from your side of the hill) was hauling hunters up Union Cr. and lining up the ridges with camps that weren't in very strategical places..If an outfitter cut a trail into an area that was only two miles from a road he'd have to have been an idiot!! My guess is if what you said happened, it was probably done by some privates. I've seen some real Einsteins over the years camp in the most stupid spots!!!!

Isn't there a elk hunting website?lester

Lester;
everyone of these people whom write about bow
hunting for elk on the thread are avid salmon/steelhead fisher-people also.

as to the validity of this thread, well Osprey, is this going over the 100 mark also.

We had better be getting some fine reports as the seasons open and the meat falls to the ground from all of you elk-heads.

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Anyone know anything about the Bumping unit(356)? Any imformation would be well appreciated.

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****, you ask the question and I'll answer as best I can..Lester, go to monstermulies.com. There are acouple of informal boards their. The mule deer board gets the majority of the action. I visit it from time to time, take a look

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If everyone on this BB wrote about their other hobbies it would no longer be piscatorial pusuits now would it.lester

Sorry to offend you Les ,but with all the BS posts that have appeared on here in resent months,as long as post stays positive and people want to talk about the subject ...I say why not
As is always mentioned here...you don't have to respond to it...so unless you want to contribute to it ,don't respond..... thats all ,there are topics on here that are'nt always related to fishing???
I didn't start this post with the idea it would grow to this ,But obviously some people are interested and some aren't those that are not don't even read them...I can't beleive I'm justifying this to anyone......But hey I get to fish for Salmon from camp does'nt that count

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Brag, brag, brag, boost, boost boost, Osprey is that all you ever do?

Good luck on the up coming season, hope to hook up this year later on the nasty or just around.

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YA!!!

don't like it don't klick it. it is clear from the title that it's a non fishing sub. ok I'm off my soap box.


6 days until we leave to set up camp and do a little last min scouting. I can't hardly wate to fling some auluminium!!!!

dcrzfitter

I'm just elated that all the hunters on this board will be whacking the [Bleeeeep!] out of mammals this fall and not fish. I might finally catch one.

Osprey,
Your bulletin didn't offend me,I too am a Hunter.It would be a shame if this turned into a BB where you have to wade thru a bunch of "junk mail" to get to the
fishing articles.Every non-fishing article bumps a fishing article of the BB just that much sooner.Do we draw the line somewhere or just let this BB get watered down with everyones own personal pursuits?Obviuosly you Elk Hunters aren't going to agree with me and thats OK.Ballroom Dancing anyone?lester

Hey Lester the Big One and Fishgal hunt also. If you don't like the post don't click on it. It might be nice if the Big One would consider a part of this site for hunting also. Just a thought.

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Thanks for the support guys ...you too Woody I don't think Bob needs to create a hunting section on the board, just look at all the topics now I think this is the only hunting topic going.
So as long as guys reply and keep asking each other questions, I'm in.
I need help Guys ....lately I've been dreaming about Elk....not just any elk.....Big...dark horned...sreaming muthers with glowing eyes,when he bugles I feel the ground shake under my feet ......God I'm sick really sick...Oh well....could be worse could be Emus:

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Youngsters back in school,
Hunters hiking in the hills.
Fishers chasing fall chinook,
While mothers work to pay the bills.
Can't you just imagine what it'll be like--
on the golf course!

Sorry "bout that, Lester(and Longfellow).

Okay then where can I shoot a turkey in Klickitat County!lester

got a new bugle. its the Berry Thunder. I'm really starting to like it. this time next week I will know what that big bull in Ospreys dreams thinks of it. I am getting that same fealing Osprey!!! I just can't take the wate much longer. the last few nights I shot I was shooting the best I have in years. and now with some new toys I really feal like it's time to get my first elk. I also shoot with no pins but this year I have went to a release. with the bows now days being so short I was really fighting to get my arrows to fly right. but now they are flying like a dream and I am ready to kill!

we are leaving Wed. after work to set up camp and get some stands up and find the animals for opening day.

good luck

dcrzfitter

Hey Crazy,I know how you feel,I have have been a arrow flingin fool lately also,I use a call made by Wayne Carlton it works great, not only have I bugled in my share of Bulls it seams to work on all in dogs on surrounding properties out here in the country also,last year I called in rag horn by just wistleing a single high pitch he resonded and I kept calling till he showed ,from there it became a sad story
You shoot a release with out pins or peep thats a new one..by hey what ever works for you...,I will also be leaving Weds,I think Mrs. Osprey is ready for me to go,after running around the house in my new camo and using my new cow in heat scent on the family Chocolate Lab hey she seams to likes it hope it works on the bull
Good luck my friend .....tight lines and tight groups....


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Osprey,

I have been driven all the neighbor dogs crazy the last few days with the new bugle. I even toot on it while making that boring drive from Tacoma.

As for the release with no sites or pins. I know you don't see it much but I won't use them pins or anything like that. I have never seen an elk with a yard marker on it so to me it's a waste. I can't tell yardage that close to save my life. with me it's let her fly when it feels right. But I had to go to the release because I couldn't get the arrows to fly right. the short axle with the bows they make now are impossble to shoot fingers or tab. so I had to step up to a release. I found one called a Rollaid. it uses little rollers so there is no string damage. I really like it. it is a stiff one that always is in my palm when I need it.

well gotta go I 'll send ya a update of how we do whenI get back.


good luck to ya'll

dcrzfitter

Alright you string slinger's, where are the report's of all the meat dropped during the big hunt?

I told everyone of you guy's you had to thread a report on you big trip out into the woods and tell us the real truth.

So now is the time and here is the place, fess up, good, bad or just ugly!!!

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Ok Woody here's my report ,1 of my partners got a nice cow opening morning,I manged to bugle in a legal Bull 4x4 to with in less than a hundred yards ,I had been watching him all morning from a cross the draw got him to commit to my call ,it was really thick and brushy so I couldn't stalk to him much closer,when he finally came over to my side,the little SOB managed to get above and then .... the wind changed game over!
I feel it was early in the rut not a lot of bugleing going on ,hopefully the change in weather will start things rolling,I did pass on several cows..1 less than 10 yards...Oh well I'm far from being done
Crazy whats up with you???
All in all we had a great time in the woods,thats what counts

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Well we had a great hunt but no meat. Had about 10 encounters, about half of the "thundering herd" variety. Where I hunt it's tough to pattern these critters, although we got them figured out on day 4. I was with my 13 year old son, who's not quite good enough to carry his bow yet. The ONLY time we separated was when he sat tight for 15 minutes while I was trying to move downwind of a herd. That's when a calf decided to move right to him and just stand there quartering away at 10 yards. Yes, If I had been there, he would have taken an arrow. We were backpack hunting in wilderness, and those little calf quarters shure do pack easier! If not for some neck surgery I would have gone back by myself now that he is in school. Still looking for my first archery elk.

I am a new poster to this board although I have been reading it for sometime now. Has anyone ever taken any big game with a .44 mag revolver and if you did what kind of bullet did you use? (weight,powder,etc) Thanks

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Hey Sockeye, I have a Ruger SuperRedhawk in .44. I use the Federal Premium Hunting rounds. They are a 300 grain cast core round. Somewhere in the 800 foot pound range for energy at 100 yards. Have not shot anything with it yet, but DANG! the sucker really kicks good. I have had nothing but good luck with the Federal rounds. Both in rifle and pistol.

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Anybody been in the Rimrock area yet? I heard the bulls are really bugling but ive yet to make a trip.

I hunted rimrock on Sat. the bulls were still quiet. We talked to some guys who had up on the crest trail the day before and the bulls up high were screaming pretty good. There has been a lot of pressure around rimrock, so I wouldn't expect them to be too talkative until after the archery elk season is done for a few days.
I should have had mine on sat. though, but being at full draw (72 lb. peak) for 2.5 minutes was too much. Haircut over the shoulder...... next time.

Hey Big Jim; I too have a superedhawk .44 mag. I load my own ammo. I loaded some 240gr lead core speer bullets that reach 1450feet per sec. An older guy at sportco who has been reloading for years told me high volicity was important. I looked in the hunt regs and they recomend a 290gr bullet or larger for elk so I may have to move up to that. Of course when ever you move up in bullet weight you also move down in volicity. I'll use the smaller loads for deer and bear. Do you have a scope on your redhawk? I've just got open sights. Happy Huntin!!

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No scope yet. I'm looking at a Simmons 4x though. I may not put it on the .44. I will be getting the .454 Casull hopefully very soon. Now that Ruger has it in the SuperRedhawk. That is a SERIOUS pistol. My hands shake just thinking about it. Kinda like those guys who shake with the bull running in on their call I bet.

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Big Jim,how did you know I was shaking
I love that rush you get from a Bugling Bull
YAAABABY
I also shoot a 44 mag mines the super blackhawk my partner loads his own for me, we prefer the smaller weight bullets ,I don't think the animal can tell the difference between the 240 grn and the 290 grn ,in my opinion the 240 is a more accurate cartridge as long as you use quality bullets...tight groups and slow Elk

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Hunted the Yakima area opening day, same thing this year like every year the crackers started tooting thier bugles first thing opening morning(tip for you guys the elk in the goose prairie area have been call shy for the last 13 plus years)so by the second day the elk were nocturnal so you had to really bust the brush, about midweek went to the high country in the Mesatchee, could catch em on the edges at first light but was never on the right trail. Only heard two elk bugle on the last weekend in the high country and that was before the sun came up and they still hadn't really herded up by then.Sure miss th Oct.1st opener.