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#94387 - 08/14/00 03:14 PM Weird Coincidence??
Chip Goodhue Offline
Returning Adult

Registered: 06/29/00
Posts: 437
Loc: Kitsap County
Here's a wierd coincidence, anyone have a similar experience or a explanation?

Thursday, July 13, 2000 at Jeff Head, good dawn bite, then the SE wind came up and our luck just shut down, spent the rest of the morning fishing near a charter (25' older glass boat with green stripe) trolling flashers with some sort of small artificial on a short leader who was killing em', both kings and silvers, we fished the same water at all depths, herring with dodgers and flashers and got skunked! Left frustrated.

Last Saturday, August 13, Skiff Point, good decent early bite on silvers, SE wind came up, and deja vu, same results fishing right next to same exact same charter boat!! Watched his party land at least lots of silvers and several kings while we got just a few short hits on herring!

Could it just have been the 13th jinx, or is there more to this?? Whoever that charter captain is, he does a great job a putting his party on the fish!

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#94388 - 08/14/00 03:54 PM Re: Weird Coincidence??
steely slammer Offline
Three Time Spawner

Registered: 02/24/00
Posts: 1516
A lot of the old timmers say an East wind and the fish tend to hunker down and not bite very well. Ive noticed this in the 20 odd yrs fishing so there must be something to it.
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#94389 - 08/14/00 04:31 PM Re: Weird Coincidence??
STRIKE ZONE Offline
GOOD LUCK

Registered: 08/09/00
Posts: 11969
Loc: Hobart,Wa U.S.A
I've never hooked salmon on an east wind any where.Sekiu,Wind river,bouy ten.But don't think it matter's that much for steelhead/salmon on the smaller river's,just the bigger bodies of water.That's just my opinion. STRIKE ZONE

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#94390 - 08/14/00 05:02 PM Re: Weird Coincidence??
potter Offline
Juvenille at Sea

Registered: 11/08/99
Posts: 204
Loc: Pacific Beach, WA, USA
There is a old saying I heard but don't remember it all. It goes like this:

"Wind from the west, fish bite the best; wind from the east, fish bite the least; wind from the south, will swing the bait in their mouth; somebody help me with the north part, I can't remember.

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#94391 - 08/14/00 06:18 PM Re: Weird Coincidence??
Hairball Offline
Juvenille at Sea

Registered: 11/13/99
Posts: 110
Loc: Lynnwood
I remember that one, I think the wind form the north had something to do with head for shelter.

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#94392 - 08/14/00 09:01 PM Re: Weird Coincidence??
dcrzfitter Offline
Spawner

Registered: 04/10/99
Posts: 889
Loc: Tenino, wa U.S.A.
I baught a book by Jed Davis on spinner fishing and he talked about wind having a big part in "the bite" he makes it sound as important as water temp. I think it's clear that it has something to do with feading habits or something.


it is one of my fav books, every fisherman should read it.


dcrzfitter

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#94393 - 08/14/00 09:27 PM Re: Weird Coincidence??
Anonymous
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Chip
Sounds like you need to book a trip. He is obviously a good fishermen that you could learn a thing or two from. Money well spent if you learn the difference in what he does when your striking out. It might be as simple as the color of his lure.
Tight Lines


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Marty
Steelheader.net marty@steelheader.net

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#94394 - 08/14/00 11:32 PM Re: Weird Coincidence??
Fly Flinger Offline
Alevin

Registered: 04/22/00
Posts: 12
Loc: Gig Harbor, WA
Wind from the East, fish bite the least.
Wind from the West, fish bite best.
Wind from the North, do not go forth. Wind from the South blows the hook to their mouth.

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#94395 - 08/15/00 01:15 AM Re: Weird Coincidence??
salmontackler Offline
Returning Adult

Registered: 03/22/00
Posts: 270
Loc: Sunny Salmontackler Acres
Chip, it might have been "fish finders". He uses "grand slam bucktails" with a dodger.

206/632/2611

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#94396 - 08/15/00 02:05 AM Re: Weird Coincidence??
Hohwaiian Offline
Returning Adult

Registered: 07/06/99
Posts: 470
Loc: Seattle, Washington, US
This wind stuff is pretty kooky. I think the only concidence is that guides hammer fish. Take Marty's advice and fish with this person. Ask him/her what modifications in gear and presentation to make when the wind kicks up. Another guide that trolls is Steve Hansen from Shilshole. Also try using lures instead of just herring. There are many other factors besides hunger that trigger a salmon strike. The aforementioned grandslam bucktail has been hot as well as the the new squid-patterned ProKing Spoon.
Hint: Try switching over to a dodger, but run it tight to the ball, because the action (kick) is much better.

Peace Out...

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#94397 - 08/15/00 02:32 AM Re: Weird Coincidence??
Scaly Offline
Returning Adult

Registered: 03/07/99
Posts: 167
Loc: Sequim, WA, USA
Was the boat's name "ROLLIN'" by chance?? If so, that would be "Dr. T-Ho-Kee" and his wonder flies behind his specially twisted flashers.

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#94398 - 08/15/00 04:39 AM Re: Weird Coincidence??
Anonymous
Unregistered


My grandpa was a commercial salmon troller with a special bend in his flashers. He claimed it made a big difference. I am sure he was telling the truth since he was grandpa.

Tight Lines

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Marty
Steelheader.net marty@steelheader.net

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#94399 - 08/15/00 11:18 AM Re: Weird Coincidence??
Beezer Offline
Spawner

Registered: 06/09/99
Posts: 838
Loc: Monroe WA
My guess is the wind changed the speed of your presentation making it either too fast/slow and or too deep/shallow depending which way your trolling or motor mooching. Another thing might be that after the morning bite the fish often move deeper and you are not keeping up with them. Like one of the others said your best bet is to charter that boat or one like him. His boat kinda sounds like Gary Krein's from "All Star Charters". Gary is a great fisher and often uses a flasher/coyote spoon setup. He can be reached at 425-252-4188. You will never regret hiring a pro for one trip due to the amount of fishing information you will learn like proper lures/bait setups, speed, depth, structure etc. This is true for both marine and river guides. Just ask around and get plenty of recommendations cuz like anything else there are good guides and bad ones. Good luck!

Beezer

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#94400 - 08/18/00 06:37 PM Re: Weird Coincidence??
DanO Offline
Smolt

Registered: 04/15/00
Posts: 87
Loc: anadromous, pacific,n.w.
" When the wind is from the north, the fishes, won't sally forth."
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