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#948857 - 01/26/16 07:55 PM Re: Armed Domestic Terrorists Take Over Bird Refuge *** [Re: Illahee]
eugene1 Offline
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Registered: 09/17/10
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Loc: out there...
Get out of Orygun!

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HARNEY COUNTY, Ore. — One person is dead and several others, including Oregon occupation leader Ammon Bundy, were detained following a confrontation with the FBI and state police Tuesday night.

It all began with a traffic stop while Bundy and some of his followers were en route to a community meeting in John Day, about 70 miles away.

Shots were fired after FBI agents, Oregon State troopers and other law enforcement agencies made the stop on US Highway 395.

Ammon Bundy, Ryan Bundy, Brian Cavalier, Shawna Cox and Ryan W. Payne were arrested during the stop. Joseph Donald O'Shaughnessy and Peter Santilli were arrested in Burns.

All of them are facing federal felony charges of conspiracy to impede officers of the United States from discharging their official duties, through the use of force, intimidation or threats.

One person, who was the subject of a federal probable cause arrest and has not yet been identified, died during the confrontation.

CNN is reporting it's unclear who fired first.

Federal law enforcement officers converged on the wildlife refuge after the arrests and were expected to remain at the site throughout the night. It was unclear how many members of the armed group, if any, were at the refuge when the law enforcement officers arrived.

The arrests come on the heels of the 24th day of the refuge occupation.

http://katu.com/news/local/leader-of-oregon-occupation-ammon-bundy-three-others-arrested


Edited by eugene1 (01/26/16 07:55 PM)

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#948859 - 01/26/16 08:01 PM Re: Armed Domestic Terrorists Take Over Bird Refuge [Re: eugene1]
Illahee Offline
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Robert "LaVoy" Finicum, killed.

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#948860 - 01/26/16 08:02 PM Re: Armed Domestic Terrorists Take Over Bird Refuge [Re: Illahee]
eugene1 Offline
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LaVoy Finicum — the Oregon militant beneath the blue tarp — killed in police shootout: reports



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LaVoy Finicum — the Oregon militant who gained fame for conducting a television interview from beneath a blue tarp — has reportedly been shot and killed by law enforcement officers.

The Arizona rancher, who was caring for 11 foster children with his wife, vowed at the start of the occupation of the Malheur National Wildlife Preserve that he was willing to die for his interpretation of the U.S. Constitution.

“I have been raised in the country all my life,” Finicum said in a widely viewed television interview with a rifle on his lap. “I love dearly to feel the wind on my face. To see the sun rise, to see the moon. I have no intention of spending any of my days in a concrete box.”

He was reportedly shot Tuesday evening during a shootout when law enforcement officers stopped a group of militants on their way to establish a shadow government in nearby Grant County.


http://www.rawstory.com/2016/01/lavoy-fi...ootout-reports/

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#948863 - 01/26/16 08:18 PM Re: Armed Domestic Terrorists Take Over Bird Refuge [Re: Illahee]
NickD90 Offline
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This part got me....

"All of them are facing federal felony charges of conspiracy to impede officers of the United States from discharging their official duties, through the use of force, intimidation or threats".

Man...Lawyers think of everything. Fight the power! grin
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#948886 - 01/27/16 06:33 AM Re: Armed Domestic Terrorists Take Over Bird Refuge [Re: Illahee]
RICH G
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The patriots were unarmed, the guys arrested in town were independent news media. From everything heard the cops opened fire on unarmed men, I guess ABC HAS The entire confrontation recorded.

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#948887 - 01/27/16 07:04 AM Re: Armed Domestic Terrorists Take Over Bird Refuge [Re: Illahee]
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At least this time the FBI avoided shooting a woman holding her infant.
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#948888 - 01/27/16 07:13 AM Re: Armed Domestic Terrorists Take Over Bird Refuge [Re: Illahee]
WDFW X 1 = 0 Offline
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Another botched job by the government.

All they have done is prove themselves incompetent once again.

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#948902 - 01/27/16 09:22 AM Re: Armed Domestic Terrorists Take Over Bird Refuge [Re: Illahee]
eugene1 Offline
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Most of those guys were members in some kind of Mormon sect. They had very large families, crazy they would risk leaving their kids fatherless instead of giving up their occupation of the refuge.

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Finicum was a Mormon rancher with 11 children, 19 grandchildren and a wife of 23 years. He told NBC News three weeks ago that he would rather die than be taken into custody as part of the occupation.

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/feds-intercepted-oregon-occupation-leaders-highway-n505126

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#948904 - 01/27/16 09:25 AM Re: Armed Domestic Terrorists Take Over Bird Refuge [Re: WDFW X 1 = 0]
CedarR Offline
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Registered: 08/04/99
Posts: 1431
Loc: Olympia, WA
Originally Posted By: WDFW X 1 = 0
Another botched job by the government.

All they have done is prove themselves incompetent once again.


One man's "botched job" is another man's "mission accomplished!"

On the positive side, only one life was lost in the taking of Malheur Refuge, and it wasn't LE. No women, children and birds were harmed. Blackbird lives matter...

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#948908 - 01/27/16 09:47 AM Re: Armed Domestic Terrorists Take Over Bird Refuge [Re: Illahee]
WDFW X 1 = 0 Offline
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LE got exactly what they wanted including discharging their weapons.

Clown Show.

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#948909 - 01/27/16 09:48 AM Re: Armed Domestic Terrorists Take Over Bird Refuge [Re: Illahee]
WDFW X 1 = 0 Offline
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Registered: 01/27/15
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"Those guys need serious mental health attention."

Do you think?

Obviously the FBI's answer to that is a lead pill.

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#948913 - 01/27/16 10:14 AM Re: Armed Domestic Terrorists Take Over Bird Refuge [Re: Illahee]
Salmo g. Offline
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Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 13481
OK WDFW X 1=0,

Let's say the price of criticism is to tell us how the gov't. should have handled this situation better. What have you got?

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#948917 - 01/27/16 10:45 AM Re: Armed Domestic Terrorists Take Over Bird Refuge [Re: Illahee]
Todd Offline
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Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 27838
Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
I think they have done a great job so far...one loony toon shot is a pretty small price to pay for a building full of seditious criminals. It's up to said seditious criminals as to how many more welfare princesses catch it later today.

Fish on...

Todd
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#948924 - 01/27/16 11:26 AM Re: Armed Domestic Terrorists Take Over Bird Refuge [Re: WDFW X 1 = 0]
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Registered: 01/09/14
Posts: 2298
Loc: Sky River(WA) Clearwater(Id)
Originally Posted By: WDFW X 1 = 0
Another botched job by the government.



The Government....The Government......The Government.... rofl

Such a convenient way of encapsulating whatever doesn't fit ones idea of management. Most of the Gubmint is comprised of local citizens. So when people scream "the government" they are typically referring to local citizens, even family members....I think the Government is handling the situation just fine, I don't want to see any of my friends who are LEO'S put in harms way because of these idiots.

Lead pills can be hard to swallow
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#948927 - 01/27/16 11:43 AM Re: Armed Domestic Terrorists Take Over Bird Refuge [Re: Todd]
Dogfish Offline
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Registered: 05/03/01
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Loc: McCleary, WA
Originally Posted By: Todd
I think they have done a great job so far...one loony toon shot is a pretty small price to pay for a building full of seditious criminals. It's up to said seditious criminals as to how many more welfare princesses catch it later today.

Fish on...

Todd


....and they also didn't shoot a boy and his dog. Bravo.
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#948929 - 01/27/16 11:57 AM Re: Armed Domestic Terrorists Take Over Bird Refuge [Re: Illahee]
WDFW X 1 = 0 Offline
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Road block front and then back.
Stay way back out of harms way.
Communicate from afar.

Instead they escalated the situation and will claim they "had" to act immediately by shooting. I call BS.

Same concept as not escalating speeds during a high speed chase.


A day after the spokesperson for an armed militia occupying an Oregon wildlife refuge was shot and killed during a traffic stop, the county’s sheriff lamented “there doesn’t have to be bloodshed in our community” and said he was “disappointed” that the incident “ended badly.”

“We all make choices in life,” an emotional Harney County Sheriff Dave Ward said during a Wednesday news conference. “Sometimes our choices go bad.”

No Shhit Sheriff. Forcing the issue was a bad choice.

"The events surrounding Finicum’s death remain unclear, and officials did nothing to clarify the incident on Wednesday, taking no questions during the news conference."

Of course not. Wonder why???

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#948930 - 01/27/16 12:10 PM Re: Armed Domestic Terrorists Take Over Bird Refuge [Re: Illahee]
Todd Offline
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Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 27838
Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
Seditious criminal with gun...de-escalate.

Child with Snapple and Skittles, unarmed...stand your ground and fire away!

Fish on...

Todd
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#948931 - 01/27/16 12:12 PM Re: Armed Domestic Terrorists Take Over Bird Refuge [Re: Illahee]
Jerry Garcia Offline



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Posts: 9013
Loc: everett
Maybe the authorities are going over the video of the arrest frame by frame. I would find it hard to believe that there isn't video.
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#948932 - 01/27/16 12:15 PM Re: Armed Domestic Terrorists Take Over Bird Refuge [Re: Todd]
Illahee Offline
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Registered: 05/22/05
Posts: 3771
Reports now say they tried to run around the roadblock and got stuck in the snow, Finicum jumped out with a gun.

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#948933 - 01/27/16 12:15 PM Re: Armed Domestic Terrorists Take Over Bird Refuge [Re: Jerry Garcia]
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Posts: 6207
Loc: zipper
if you don't put yourself in stupid situations, stupid things don't happen. Occupying a wildlife refuge is pretty fukkin stupid. As Forrest Gump said, "stupid is as stupid does".
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