SAD is right!

No good 509ers. I can't bring myself to curse the few 360ers, though. At least they're people who live and work in the area.

I'm in the camp of everyone fishes or nobody fishes, myself. Elitism sucks; especially when you're not elite.

Having a key is the easy part.

Having one that fits can be problematic.

Just sayin.

How did you get to Scheafer Ck. to be pulling plugs????????? Interesting....

r u a "key man"???????

No comment about the bridge/boat picture?

That is interesting... Matt, you got some splainin' to do... but I'll let you off for a copy of your key!

Poor Matt.
All he wanted to do was throw the sleds under the bus.

I don't blame him.
Damn sled guys.

Below is a "cut and paste" from another thread...got lazy, didn't want to re-type....

I read the complete article....

1. I don't fish my jet boat in the White Bridge area. There are many guides that do and do safely. I'm sure the impact is less than if there were no boats above White Bridge. I'm also aware that drift boats and pontoons have access at a few places above White Bridge. So it not like NO ONE is catching hatchery fish above White, just not like in the past.

2. Hatchery fish and wild fish spawning ????? I do know that many of the hatchery fish end up in the fish trap. Some of these hatchery fish are taken back to the hatchery, to be used for brood stock. Some of the hatchery fish are released above the dam, this has been going on for a long time, 30+ years.

There have been at least 2 truck loads of hatchery fish, recycled. The fish are taken from the trap, tagged and trucked back down river. They are released at XXXXXXXXXXXX. Gives sportsmen a second chance at the hatchery fish.......

I've heard very few comments on "drift boat / jet boat", since Green Diamond gated the 7400 line....why is that????? Just wondering.

Before long you will see float planes.

And helicopters.

And Jetskis and Bayliners.

Jetskis are an excellent way to get internal-combustion motors banned (hint hint). Happened on Black River and a couple other coastal streams (temporarily). People get more uptight having their peace and quite disturbed by adrenalin junkies on skis for some reason.

I think there could be a real market for a single or double occupant lightweight aluminum, low displacement PWC that could be used to access the upper headwaters of our rivers...

It has all been done before.

Heard he crashed his giant wooldridge around black creek already

This hole deal with Green Diamond selling keys to 7400 gate is a bunch of B.S. and it doesn't matter who they sold them to or what price they had to pay. First off if anyone remembers how this access was shut down. The first people who were shut of the 7400 access was the people doing shuttles for fishermen making money for profit, Mick and Rockey were told they could no longer do shuttles up there. Second group a few weeks later was the guides, because they were using Green Diamond land also for profit. Third group was when all the rest of us got locked out with the final closing of the gate because of vehicles blocking the road and bridge and litter problem. Seems now Green Diamond, by giving a few people access has forgot about the excuses they used to shut access down in the first place. I don't know how, but it's about time we sportsmen stand up for ourselves and get heard loud and clear that we are tired of being screwed by big timber companies on access to their land. I know there are some lawyers that frequent this site that may have an idea of how to approach this problem and lead us to a way to fight for what we have lost.

Chicken bones and diapers

Not that I like seeing any access closed for any reason, but it seems to me that Green Diamond closed it and sold keys to a handful of people to exactly address the problems they were having.

Now there will be less garbage, no one will be blocking their road, and no one will be using their property to make money without their permission, and those people are paying for the privilege.

Not sure how many of the folks here have a foot this shoe would fit on...but I always find it more than a little amusing that "private property rights" and "personal responsibility" folks become Socialists really, really quickly when someone doesn't give them free access to their property to do whatever they want to do there, whether it be hunt, fish, or whatever.

I do think, however, that tax breaks should not be doled out to those who close up the property to recreation...otherwise, it's their property, they don't owe you schit.

Fish on...

Todd

Key word. Their land! It doesn't matter if they get tax breaks for public access or not. Green Diamond manages the land

Selling access to the public is still "PUBLIC ACCESS"....


Aswell....They keep their property open 365 days a year for public walk in access aswell. aside from fire danger or logging activities.
Open Vehicle access is not a requirement.... and anyone can walk their happy @$$ to the river.

I absolutely hate that these launches are closed. I fish from a pontoon and any ditched launch was not a big deal. I still had all the access I needed.

It's fishermen who screwed us out of these access points. No other user group is involved. And I 100% agree with green diamond closing Thier lands.
For years they kept gates open to access these launches. While they locked all other gates December 31st...we had the privilege of access. And a few took it for granted and ruined it for everyone....