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#952928 - 03/07/16 01:03 PM Re: GMO crops\seeds banned in Russia [Re: ]
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BU is right, crossing is not the same as modifying...

crossing has as he said been going on for ever.... different strains of Tomato's, Apples, Oranges, Strawberries, Rasberries, ect....

hell they even cross Cannabis all the time, thats not modifying anything.... its like taking a German Shepard, and crossing it with a Beagle, you arent modifying any of the DNA...

now when you take a plant species, and constantly tweak and reverse and tweak and reverse the DNA so that the plant can be drenched in Glyphosphate and not die, that is genetically modifying the DNA structure in the species/plant, theres no crossing, graphting, just modifying the structure of its blueprint....

Roundup is going to be something like that of the Meso/Asbestos thing that happened, a sh!t ton of applicators are about and around, and noone takes anything seriously, until 60 years later then will figure out something wasnt right....

i get into arguements with "organic" gardeners around here all the time, when they say they use "organic" fertilizers, which are salt based, or "organic" pesticides for their fruits and vegetables and whatnot.... just because its "organic", doesnt mean its not TOXIC....

Monsanto is a joke, they are trying to monopolize on the fact that farmers dont have the money to pay workers, so they need planes full of Roundup to entirely drench football fields of plants with it to keep the weeds out, since they cant afford to have someone pull them.... think about all that [Bleeeeep!], and whatever may or may not bind to it and then leach into our rivers and streams, then what....

i do use ROundup, but not near my food, and usually at under the recommended application rates, if you do it in the right time of day/year, it works just fine at lower mixing ratios....
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#952930 - 03/07/16 01:24 PM Re: GMO crops\seeds banned in Russia [Re: ]
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Carcassman is either trolling or he suffered some recent head trauma.
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#952934 - 03/07/16 02:22 PM Re: GMO crops\seeds banned in Russia [Re: Carcassman]
RowVsWade Offline
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Originally Posted By: Carcassman
Crossing different species, whether done in a lab or in nature is modifying the genetics of that organisms at a genetic (DNA) level. It may, and has, occurred in nature. It may, and has, occurred in the lab.

My question was just where and how you draw the line. My dad had the heart valve of a pig surgically implanted. Kept him alive. How much of medical research is "GMO"? That bad too?


GMO is not naturally occurring mutations (natural insertion or deletions of DNA material). Your dads heart valve doesn't make your dad a GMO, unless they spliced pig DNA with your fathers DNA and he generated a heart valve on his "own". Your dad and my grandpa were merely retrofitted with non OEM parts
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#952935 - 03/07/16 02:23 PM Re: GMO crops\seeds banned in Russia [Re: Dan S.]
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Originally Posted By: Dan S.
Carcassman is either trolling or he suffered some recent head trauma.


My thought also because he's usually a pretty smart guy.
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#952944 - 03/07/16 05:19 PM Re: GMO crops\seeds banned in Russia [Re: ]
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Don't worry about this crap. You will die of something else first.
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#952945 - 03/07/16 05:32 PM Re: GMO crops\seeds banned in Russia [Re: ]
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If you don't know the difference between hybridization, grafting, and GMOs, then you should go sit at the kid's table and let the adults talk...by now you have to be wilfully ignorant to think those things are the same.

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#952947 - 03/07/16 05:54 PM Re: GMO crops\seeds banned in Russia [Re: ]
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If you f**k a rat with corn do you get rat-corn?

You bet!

And humans have been doing it for tens of thousands of years!
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#952950 - 03/07/16 06:03 PM Re: GMO crops\seeds banned in Russia [Re: Todd]
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The dark side is the kiddie table. Todd, you're the loudest hack on this site. Take the chair on the end. You earned it.

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#952962 - 03/07/16 07:44 PM Re: GMO crops\seeds banned in Russia [Re: Jason Beezuz]
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Originally Posted By: Jason Beezy
If you f**k a rat with corn do you get rat-corn?

You bet!

And humans have been doing it for tens of thousands of years!


So you're going to join the dumbfuck parade, huh?

Humans haven't been doing it for thousands of years, dumbass. There's still a couple seats at the kids' table though. Pull up a seat,
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#952965 - 03/07/16 08:18 PM Re: GMO crops\seeds banned in Russia [Re: ]
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LOL Dan S. I was just [Bleeeeep!] around. JTFC.

I honestly don't like GMO but that doesn't mean I am gonna lose any sleep over it. I smoke cigarettes. wink
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#952966 - 03/07/16 08:28 PM Re: GMO crops\seeds banned in Russia [Re: Jason Beezuz]
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Originally Posted By: Jason Beezy
I smoke cigarettes. wink




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#952971 - 03/07/16 08:44 PM Re: GMO crops\seeds banned in Russia [Re: Bent Metal]
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You owe me a keyboard farker! rofl
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#952973 - 03/07/16 08:53 PM Re: GMO crops\seeds banned in Russia [Re: Jason Beezuz]
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It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.

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Originally Posted By: Jason Beezy
LOL Dan S. I was just [Bleeeeep!] around. JTFC.

I honestly don't like GMO but that doesn't mean I am gonna lose any sleep over it. I smoke cigarettes. wink


Dude - don't smoke. Those things kill people. Quitting isn't easy, but it isn't hard, either.

Cancer and heart disease are hard.
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#952976 - 03/07/16 09:05 PM Re: GMO crops\seeds banned in Russia [Re: GutZ]
RowVsWade Offline
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Originally Posted By: GutZ
Don't worry about this crap. You will die of something else first.


I worry for my kids. I've treated my body like a whore house but that doesn't mean it's too late. What my concern with GMO is, it's not sustainable over the long haul. Some day our agricultural system will come crashing down and we'll have to bail out Monsanto because they'll be too big to fail.
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#952977 - 03/07/16 09:09 PM Re: GMO crops\seeds banned in Russia [Re: ]
RICH G
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So really what are GMO's all about anyways.

1. You need less land to yield a greater harvest.
2. You grow a lower maintanience crop resistant to fungus and bugs.
3. Your crops are not fertile so you can't harvest your own seeds.
4. You will solve world hunger? Nope that did not happen.

So the corn we buy is not really "corn".
The wheat is not really " wheat".
So on and so on...

So what are we eating? And what the hell is the purpose of the whole thing? Is it good for humanity or not?

I got a feeling it's like Fiat currancy, we are just starting to figure out that it was not good for us and we were taken advantage of.. Maybe in tis case poisoned!!

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#952978 - 03/07/16 09:13 PM Re: GMO crops\seeds banned in Russia [Re: ]
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I trust our gooberment. crazy
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#952979 - 03/07/16 09:32 PM Re: GMO crops\seeds banned in Russia [Re: ]
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Not to mention how Monsanto not just ruined farming they also ruined farmers. They effectively have a patent on their pollen. Pollen that effectively ruins your seed crop could mean Monsanto sues and takes your farm and all assets.
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#952980 - 03/07/16 09:41 PM Re: GMO crops\seeds banned in Russia [Re: ]
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...and we wonder what happened to the honey bees. Honey bees and other pollinators like butterflies are not needed by Monsanto since they're producing a sterile seed. Wholesale chemical warfare happening around us and most people are willing participants. Our kids and grandkids will (hopefully) look back and say WTF were you thinking? How could you let this happen?
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#952983 - 03/07/16 09:55 PM Re: GMO crops\seeds banned in Russia [Re: ]
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negative Rich...


the Monsanto sh!t has nothing to do with harvest percentages, just that they are RU resistant.....

also FYI, if you want to get seeds that arent Monsanto produced, they are on the internet.....

even Russians can buy them, GMO or non GMO style...
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#952984 - 03/07/16 09:56 PM Re: GMO crops\seeds banned in Russia [Re: RowVsWade]
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What happened to all the tree frogs we use to see as kids?
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