has anyone checked, or is it possible to check, if the WFC has recieved any donations from the tribe, or if the WFC as a group has tribal interests/influences?

I suspect that both NWIFC and CRTFC are not friendly with the WFC at all, since the majority of the fish they desire to harvest are of hatchery origin, and the WFC has yet to meet a hatchery fish it won't sue over.

That's not to say that they haven't partnered on habitat issues, I would be surprised if they had not.

Fish on...

Todd

Location of the PDC issue Carcassman described.

https://www.pdc.wa.gov/sites/default/fil...March2016_1.pdf

There was a time when observors from the PS Sport Fish Advisors were allowed to sit in on the state/tribal meetings. They couldn't say anything and couldn't talk about what was said. That didn't last too long. As I understand it, the tribes wanted the discussions to be between governments (state/tribal) and the observers were not state employees.....

the PDC issue is quite interesting. What I see failed to be mentioned, is that no one is telling the tribes how they can spend their money; rather, they are, or should be, restricting what money the politicans can accept. A big difference. They likely can influence through their own ads and advertising, but any direct payment should be able to be stopped. There is no freedom of speech issues or federal issues that I see with this, as in no way is the tribe being regulated, only the non-tribal entity.

It's easier to win a lawsuit if damages are incurred.

They are netting today, start netting the Skagit tomorrow...

Under the proposed justification of a "Harvestable surplus" of Chinook Salmon, Lorraine Loomis of the NWIFC has just submitted Fisheries proposals for both the Swinomish and the Sauk Suiattle tribes to gill net Skagit Bay and the Skagit river for Chinook....Starting tomorrow!

However, NOONE has a active, valid permit to fish for Salmon right now in all of Puget Sound.

Several PS Salmon Advisors have asked the WDFW if they will allow the fishery to occur, and what enforcement actions will take place since the Tribal permits lapsed on May 1.

Stay tuned!

Will it be business as usual for the tribes to keep fishing without a permit?

How did you guys find out? I am definitely not doubting it, but if there's a link somewhere, let us know so we can get the word out.

Anyone can email the WDFW @ TreatyFishRegs@dfw.wa.gov and request to be added to their distribution list for all species.

Gotcha, thanks sky-guy

Why don't sportfishers assume the role of enforcement and harassment. The WDFW and Feds would be all over us, like whiskey breath on an Indian, if we fished during a closed season and without permits and licenses. Perhaps a few hundred or thousands of sporties blocking entrances and exits along with media attention could turn the tide.

It'd be a chance for OUR voices to be heard. Unfortunately apathy and a false trust in a broken and abused "process" has us hoping someone will come to our rescue.

We could shut the flat nosed fish eaters down in a matter of days if we coalesced as a group.

alot if not most people dont realize that this can have global impacts.... what do you think will happen to the Asian fish markets across the seas if the Natives cant net?

they probably know what will happen to, which is why they arent stopping....

sporstfisherman spend billions on fishing here per year yes, but getting paid billions far outweighs it....

Yep, RvW, this will play real well with the media. I for one don't want you speaking for me or my sport....

me neither

If you're a non-Indian fisherman who gives a crap about splitting impacts evenly, preventing unpermitted Tribal fishing, or otherwise thinks that Tribal fishermen have been getting a better deal than non-Tribal fisherman, the *worst* thing you can do for your cause right now is start slinging around racial insults or stereotypes.

+1,

fb

The worst thing? You mean like no fishing? GMAFB

Frankly I don't GAF about any your PC needs. I'm not, nor have I ever been PC. I'm sick of getting laughed at and taking it up the ass because of 1% that hides behind their heritage when it suits them.

I'm not looking to be the spokesman for a bunch of PC pseudo-politicians anyway, but thanks for the consideration, I'm just advocating taking matters into our own hands.

I'll leave the sweet talk to you guys.

You're definitely entitled to your own views. I just think that line of thinking is counterintuitive. It'll cause the whole lot of us to get written off.