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#957420 - 05/15/16 11:20 AM Re: North of Falcon/PMFC update [Re: luckydogss]
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I also bought a salt water license, and if I can not fish localy I will put new tires on my trailer and go to the coast, Westport, but the bright side is that with my shellfish license I can harvest seaweed 365 days a year. grin
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#957423 - 05/15/16 02:22 PM Re: North of Falcon/PMFC update [Re: Salmo g.]
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We're all racists now....


Funny how none of the things they said are included....


http://www.irehr.org/2016/05/13/bigotry-calls-violence-follow-protest-tribal-treaty-fishing/
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#957425 - 05/15/16 02:35 PM Re: North of Falcon/PMFC update [Re: luckydogss]
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Fishers come with the same mindset of preserving habitat.

I'm okay with the idea of more terminal harvest.
The PFMC and US-Canada Treaty need to be addressed. It is not just NOF that is broken.
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#957426 - 05/15/16 02:51 PM Re: North of Falcon/PMFC update [Re: FleaFlickr02]
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I saw the same thing at first glance. Cushman? Really???

I thought those were planted chinook?
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#957427 - 05/15/16 03:18 PM Re: North of Falcon/PMFC update [Re: Sky-Guy]
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this is really starting to piss me off....

a day before the rally, on FWS on Facebook, people brought up the rally being held and it turned into a sh!t show...

what it mainly was, was Natives telling the rest of the "white man", to learn to fish for something else instead of Salmon... they kept using the term "paleface", and "white man" in derogatory senses, i mean paleface isnt racist at all, and i had to tell them to knock it off, SEVERAL times... i left the thread up, but i kept telling myself i should screen cap the sh!t because someone was going to delete the whole thing at some point, and i just had a weird feeling that it may be useful...

well i didnt, and it got deleted by another admin....

it was attacks on peoples mothers, laughing at the "white man" because he couldnt fish and they were, its their right... i had brought up that one of my great great grandfathers had married a Cherokee in the 1800s, but appearently, im still white because my skin is white, i have no Indian blood in me at all because my skin is white (im not really that white smh)... one of my responses was that i didnt care about that side/lineage of my family, im more intrigued with the Italian side as im a hell of alot more of that than i am Indian....

100% likely there isnt a 100% Native blooded Indian in this country... so basically at some point everyone is "white", or has "white blood" in them... i have a lot of friends that are Native, and they are as white as i am, mainly because at some point they started marrying white lineage people...

the "white man" as they refer to us, didnt steal anything from them, matter of fact, that bullsh!t article even states that they traded their land for hunting and fishing rights, so if you TRADED, how was it TAKEN?

the "white man" didnt take anything from anyone, the US Government did, and they take from the "white man" every single day as well, because well they are the Government and thats what those assholes do, is take from everyone thats under them....

Ron had brought up a good point about people threatening to not renew licenses saying it would hamper the upcoming years due to no funding for hatcheries because of lost revenue... well if we shut down all the hatcheries, what would they be fishing for? the wild runs obviously cant sustain what they are going through, so maybe that should be a possibility?

so if the white man is so bad, why do they use white man power to power their casinos? why do they pay millions of dollars to white owned TV stations (KIng, Kiro, Komo) to advertise their casinos to white people that spend their white money in there? i mean the white man is the devil right? why dance with the devil?


also, if you all didnt know, Hillary when she visited here a couple weeks ago, she went to the North West Indian Fisheries building down on River Road to meet with tribal members... you can tell who they will be voting for, with the massive use of Trumps name in that article....

watch who you vote for this year, it may make or break you.....
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#957429 - 05/15/16 03:28 PM Re: North of Falcon/PMFC update [Re: Sky-Guy]
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oh im vowing to fight to be part of the solution, may cause problems but thats what racism does, just like you constantly cause problems...

im going to start by doing this, starting with you.... deleting doesnt work when you piss me off....
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#957430 - 05/15/16 03:34 PM Re: North of Falcon/PMFC update [Re: 5 * General Evo]
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#957431 - 05/15/16 03:37 PM Re: North of Falcon/PMFC update [Re: Kinetic Kwik]
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Originally Posted By: Kinetic Kwik





you have no clue as to what i am, what im capable of, what i have done, what i can do, or what i will do....

just stfu and mind your own business, or, get involved so that we can get this sh!t straightened out....

you can always come over if you want too....
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#957432 - 05/15/16 03:44 PM Re: North of Falcon/PMFC update [Re: 5 * General Evo]
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Originally Posted By: Evo



oh im vowing to fight to be part of the solution, may cause problems but thats what racism does, just like you constantly cause problems...

im going to start by doing this, starting with you.... deleting doesnt work when you piss me off....



Oh now I get it. Because your ignorance gets called out, it's ok to cause problems. Gotcha. Not.


Edited by Kinetic Kwik (05/15/16 03:56 PM)

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#957433 - 05/15/16 03:49 PM Re: North of Falcon/PMFC update [Re: Sky-Guy]
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how many times have you been told to keep the BS off this side of the board?
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#957434 - 05/15/16 04:01 PM Re: North of Falcon/PMFC update [Re: Sky-Guy]
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Back to your regularly scheduled programming.......

A couple of questions for those more versed in NOF negotiations.
I keep hearing that both sides are still talking.

1. Is there an official drop dead date on when an agreement must be reached by or can they continue to negotiate right up to the proposed July openings?
2. If they were to reach an agreement, how long would it take NOAA to rubber stamp it?

Thanks for your input.
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#957435 - 05/15/16 04:08 PM Re: North of Falcon/PMFC update [Re: Sky-Guy]
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from what one of Ron's friends at the rally said, things arent looking good at all, period for us....

ive also heard that NOAA isnt interested in issuing a seperate permit for sportsfishing in the state... like it should have been done all at once, or not at all...

both hearsay, but could very well be true....
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#957438 - 05/15/16 05:19 PM Re: North of Falcon/PMFC update [Re: 5 * General Evo]
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It would be good to hear the tribes at the US- Canada Treaty negotiations. No one talks about Northern take.
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#957439 - 05/15/16 05:50 PM Re: North of Falcon/PMFC update [Re: Sky-Guy]
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Ron did at the rally, Alaska took 100k fish more than they were supposed to last year...
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#957441 - 05/15/16 08:33 PM Re: North of Falcon/PMFC update [Re: Sky-Guy]
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Late night check-in> Anyone seen an update on the WDFW/Tribes meetings lately? More "secrecy" surrounding these meeting than the Vatican meetings between the Cardinals electing a new Pope? They burn paper after every vote yea or nay and I was wondering tonight with all today's hi-tech where I might find a camera view of the chimney of votes taken recently...... :-/ Foot dragging gonna' get you NO season in PS unfortunately! Oh well........

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#957454 - 05/16/16 10:38 AM Re: North of Falcon/PMFC update [Re: 5 * General Evo]
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Originally Posted By: slabhunter
It would be good to hear the tribes at the US- Canada Treaty negotiations. No one talks about Northern take.


Originally Posted By: Evo
Ron did at the rally, Alaska took 100k fish more than they were supposed to last year...



They plan on targeting 263K in the troll fishery out of a total allocation of over 355K for 2016...

http://www.adfg.alaska.gov/static/applications/dcfnewsrelease/651320891.pdf

I hear king fishing is off the hook in SE-AK right now.
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#957458 - 05/16/16 11:50 AM Re: North of Falcon/PMFC update [Re: Sky-Guy]
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are the trollers the boats with the long boom arms on them? i dont pay attention to much of the commercial stuff, and your numbers are pretty much the reason for that....
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#957491 - 05/17/16 12:25 AM Re: North of Falcon/PMFC update [Re: eyeFISH]
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Most of the commercial fishing for kings is being done on inside waters. They're targeting fish produced in AK waters. The most productive areas for lower 48 kings won't open until 7/1.

I've heard they're doing pretty good too but the fish are showing up to the SSRAA hatcheries earlier than usual. The numbers of fish per landing isn't stellar by any means but there's quite a few boats out fishing.

http://www.adfg.alaska.gov/static/applications/dcfnewsrelease/657700621.pdf

Notice the size of the fish showing up.
http://www.adfg.alaska.gov/index.cfm?adfg=commercialbyfisherysalmon.bluesheetsummary

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#957495 - 05/17/16 08:14 AM Re: North of Falcon/PMFC update [Re: Sky-Guy]
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http://bellingham.craigslist.org/for/5589707611.html

Taking orders for fresh King Salmon, days catch every delivery. $5 per pound, each Fish average 20 lbs. I will reply ASAP on when I can get your Salmon.

Regards,


Buddy


Edited by ONTHESAUK (05/17/16 08:16 AM)
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#957504 - 05/17/16 09:36 AM Re: North of Falcon/PMFC update [Re: Sky-Guy]
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