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#96020 - 09/14/00 03:04 AM Time for the Humptulips soon! Whats hot?
8 FOOT LEADER Offline
Juvenille at Sea

Registered: 08/18/00
Posts: 187
Loc: Seattle, WA, USA
Anyone headed down to hit those monster CNR Kings on the Humps in a few weeks? or strictly going after Silvers down there. Last year this fishery was spectacular. 30# fish were common place.

How about area 9 this week? anyone doing well there? I've heard alot of hit and miss reports on the incoming Coho.

The Carbon River has produced some nice fish when the river has been in shape. The locals down there say that the best day so far was about 45 fish. I fished there and it was slow when I went on monday - that was the day after the 45 fish. I saw 3 fish, 1 Silver and the 2 Kings I hit. and the water was up. Any news on that since Monday?

How about the sky? Little fishing pressure, and lots of fish it what I've heard. Wallace flats area for Silvers and Steelies below Sultan.

Don't forget the Samish. Anyone fishing up there?

Any and all info appreciated.

-----tight lines---------

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#96021 - 09/14/00 11:51 AM Re: Time for the Humptulips soon! Whats hot?
skunkmaster Offline
Parr

Registered: 02/28/00
Posts: 60
Loc: Cosmopolis,Wa USA
Unfotunatly,the Hump is closed to kings this year.If you want to catch a nice king try the Satsop.
Thank You.

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#96022 - 09/14/00 03:43 PM Re: Time for the Humptulips soon! Whats hot?
Jim Bain Offline
Juvenille at Sea

Registered: 11/21/99
Posts: 180
Loc: Chehalis, Washington USA
I think it was closed to Kings last year also...correct me if I am wrong. Lower Chehalis just now starting to see some decent King action...

Jim
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#96023 - 09/14/00 04:20 PM Re: Time for the Humptulips soon! Whats hot?
STRIKE ZONE Offline
GOOD LUCK

Registered: 08/09/00
Posts: 11969
Loc: Hobart,Wa U.S.A
I thought both,Satsop and the hump where closed last year for nook's.This year is the same for the hump but can you keep nook's this year on the satsop??????Thank's STRIKE ZONE.I thought both were fin clipped coho only.

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#96024 - 09/14/00 05:32 PM Re: Time for the Humptulips soon! Whats hot?
Kev Offline
Spawner

Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 644
Loc: Bothell, Wa
SATSOP RIVER AND EAST FORK(Grays Harbor Co.)
from mouth to bridge at Schafer State Park
SALMON Oct. 1-Nov. 15 SALMON - no more than 2 adults. No more than 1 wild adult COHO and 1 adult CHINOOK.
Please check the regs, I believe there is a min. size, etc. http://www.wa.gov/wdfw/fish/regs/2000/2000fish.pdf

[This message has been edited by Kev (edited 09-14-2000).]

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#96025 - 09/14/00 10:16 PM Re: Time for the Humptulips soon! Whats hot?
FlyH20 Offline
Smolt

Registered: 06/12/00
Posts: 72
The Hump is not open for Kings which means they should not be targeted for C&R purposes. It is closed because of the lack of fish to support a harvastable Fishery. Mortality rates are very high on kings which does not make them a good C&R Fish. If your not there to target Hatchery Silvers go someplace else. The more people go there with the intentions of C&R king fishing the faster the river will get closed down to all Fishing.
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#96026 - 09/14/00 11:02 PM Re: Time for the Humptulips soon! Whats hot?
Kevin Offline
Returning Adult

Registered: 07/16/99
Posts: 378
Loc: seattle,wa
How come the Quanalts can net the river for kings but its closed for us? Talk to a guy netting steelies last year said he did great on kings but it was closed for sports fishing??? Don't get me wrong but it seems like we pay for most of those fish(hatchery) but aren't able to fish for them? Is next year the first year that hatchery Kings are marked? Just seems kinda wierd.

Tight lines

Kevin

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#96027 - 09/14/00 11:34 PM Re: Time for the Humptulips soon! Whats hot?
8 FOOT LEADER Offline
Juvenille at Sea

Registered: 08/18/00
Posts: 187
Loc: Seattle, WA, USA
CNR means catch and release. And yes while fishing for silvers your going to hit kings. Thats commonplace on the Hump.

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#96028 - 09/14/00 11:39 PM Re: Time for the Humptulips soon! Whats hot?
8 FOOT LEADER Offline
Juvenille at Sea

Registered: 08/18/00
Posts: 187
Loc: Seattle, WA, USA
previous note was for skunkmaster and jg. I was just trying to be upbeat and ask whats up for this weekend, didnt need the lecture on CNR and high king mortality.

I didnt make the king bite my line. And if I get one on, then I'm very good about how I handle releasing them.

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#96029 - 09/15/00 02:33 AM Re: Time for the Humptulips soon! Whats hot?
Hohwaiian Offline
Returning Adult

Registered: 07/06/99
Posts: 470
Loc: Seattle, Washington, US
Targetting chinook on the Hump for CNR fishing, while it is closed, is a very interesting topic. As I recall the latest issue of Fishing and Hunting News boldly states that Hump Chinook would be the main targets for many anglers. Also, a few years back the cover story for STS had guide, Chris Olsen, Dave Vedder and others fishing for Hump chinook after an emergency closure had been instituted that season. Hmmm???

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#96030 - 09/15/00 03:24 AM Re: Time for the Humptulips soon! Whats hot?
8 FOOT LEADER Offline
Juvenille at Sea

Registered: 08/18/00
Posts: 187
Loc: Seattle, WA, USA
Samish, Carbon Kings are open, how bout those? anyone hear anything on those this week?

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#96031 - 09/15/00 08:08 AM Re: Time for the Humptulips soon! Whats hot?
SteveL Offline
Eyed Egg

Registered: 03/08/00
Posts: 5
Loc: Woodinville, WA, USA
In answer to your question about Area 9. Yes, it has been good. We went last evening and brought in three nice silvers. Lost two beauties right at the side that were even bigger yet. Last day is today so get out to Picnic Point and hug the line at the shipwreck about a quarter mile south. Fish at 90 feet.

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#96032 - 09/15/00 11:58 AM Re: Time for the Humptulips soon! Whats hot?
FlyH20 Offline
Smolt

Registered: 06/12/00
Posts: 72
8 Foot Leader,

In the 6-10 trips I took to the Hump last year targeting Coho we either limited out on Hatchery Coho or came close. During that time not one king was even Incidently caught. Incidental catches are very rare if your targeting Coho and fishing coho water. And if I look back at your original post you said "last year was spectacular 30# fish were common place". Wow thats pretty good for not targeting them.
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#96033 - 09/15/00 12:08 PM Re: Time for the Humptulips soon! Whats hot?
Double Haul Offline
Three Time Spawner

Registered: 03/07/99
Posts: 1440
Loc: Wherever I can swing for wild ...
I always find it hard to believe someone fishing a deep hole with a sardine wrapped kwickfish is actually targeting Coho.
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#96034 - 09/15/00 12:49 PM Re: Time for the Humptulips soon! Whats hot?
Hohman Offline
Eyed Egg

Registered: 07/25/00
Posts: 7
Why is the Hump closed for Kings???? Let's get real! The tribe netted something like 40 out of 45 days several years in a row targeting kings. And yes, your bucks and mine run the hatchery.

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#96035 - 09/15/00 12:56 PM Re: Time for the Humptulips soon! Whats hot?
The Moderator Offline
The Chosen One

Registered: 02/09/00
Posts: 13942
Loc: Tuleville
I hear ya Rich!

I think a lot of this "CNR" stuff going on will only result in getting our rivers closed. The State and Feds will only take so much BS before they just outright close the river.

A lof of this incidental "CNR" goes on with the 'nooks on the Sky and Skagit. I hear the Feds are really close to shutting the Skagit down.

Leave those wrapped Qwickies, 6/0 Gammies, and tennis ball globs of eggs at home!

Parker
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#96036 - 09/15/00 03:27 PM Re: Time for the Humptulips soon! Whats hot?
FlyH20 Offline
Smolt

Registered: 06/12/00
Posts: 72
When are the sportsmen of washington going to figure it out that we have no control over what the Indians do. It is sad that they still net when it is closed to sporties but that is a fact of life. But two wrongs don't make a right. It's the same attitude used by many sporties when it comes to Wild Steelhead. I often here comments like "If I didn't kill it, it would have died in the Indians net". Untill we as sporties realize that we only have control over what we do things are not going to get any better. I remember a day on the sol duc a few years back when a guy got to the takeout *****ing about the lack of fish and the nets at the mouth blocking off the river. One look into his fish box showed two dead nates in the mid teens.
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#96037 - 09/15/00 04:13 PM Re: Time for the Humptulips soon! Whats hot?
Hohman Offline
Eyed Egg

Registered: 07/25/00
Posts: 7
jg
I don't agree with your attitude that we have no control over what the Indians do. Maybe on an individual basis you're mostly right. But somebody does have control to enforce the 50-50 split on a river by river. The Hump was a world class King sport fishery and now it's dead. So what do you do bow your head and walk off into the sunset? The Hoh is another good example: We haven't been able to fish Springs and Summer Kings for 2 years now. Guess who is fishing it.
No, jg I'll continue to speak out until the "B" decision is fairly administered.

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#96038 - 09/15/00 06:26 PM Re: Time for the Humptulips soon! Whats hot?
FlyH20 Offline
Smolt

Registered: 06/12/00
Posts: 72
Hohman,
The problem I have with our user group(sport fishermen) is that we are quick to blame the tribes for our decline in fish populations. They do need to take part of the responsibility but all I'm saying is we all need to look at ourselves as sporties and take some of the blame, and do our part to help fish populations I.E. not targeting Kings that are closed to fishing.
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#96039 - 09/15/00 06:42 PM Re: Time for the Humptulips soon! Whats hot?
Jeffhead Offline
Spawner

Registered: 03/27/00
Posts: 531
Loc: Olympia, Washington
Hohman,
You need to take some time and go back and search the historical files here in the BB. I believe it was Salmo G that has posted some fairly detailed information on how the fish are allocated and how it relates to the Boldt decision. It is not, as much as we (the sportfisherman and women) want it to be allocated on a pure 50/50 basis. I do not claim to be an expert (I am far from it). Just see that you are relatively new (I am assuming by the number of posts you have made) and just wanted to share that this subject has been beat up pretty good in the past. Most of us did not have a clue on how the whole process works. The punchline is that the fish are being allocated by the guidelines of the Boldt decision.
I am not advocating that I agree with how it is done, but I personnely chose not to get wrapped around the axle on something that I feel will not be changed in my lifetime.
Good luck and tight lines, Jeff

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