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#965108 - 09/28/16 05:18 PM Re: Their 50%: Central sound tribal Coho Fisheries [Re: Sky-Guy]
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I am planning on getting a chunk of our 50% this weekend.

Fish on...

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#965109 - 09/28/16 05:21 PM Re: Their 50%: Central sound tribal Coho Fisheries [Re: Sky-Guy]
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Me too Todd, just a little closer than previously guessed. wink
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#965144 - 09/29/16 11:31 AM Re: Their 50%: Central sound tribal Coho Fisheries [Re: Sky-Guy]
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Interesting year.....from supposed crisis to harvest.
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#965194 - 09/30/16 10:02 AM Re: Their 50%: Central sound tribal Coho Fisheries [Re: Krijack]
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Originally Posted By: Krijack
It will be interesting to see what happens in the Nisqually and Snohomish fisheries. The state basically gave the Puyallups and Muckleshoots the right to all the coho in their fisheries, but the others do not seem to have any provision to open it up. I wonder if they will ignore the agreement and fish anyways if the numbers show sufficient numbers.


MA 13 has been split. Waters to the West of the Nisqually Estuary are to open for clipped coho.

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#965197 - 09/30/16 10:53 AM Re: Their 50%: Central sound tribal Coho Fisheries [Re: ]
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River Nutrients

Registered: 10/28/09
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Originally Posted By: Myassisdragon
It won't work like it does for stripped bass, we tried the "Steelhead is a Game Fish option a gazzillion years ago, and we made the dam fish The state's official Fish and neither saved the steelhead from the casino platters.......


Good points.

The reason sport fishing advocacy groups were effective in ending commercial fishing on stripers, reds, etc. was that the states in which those events occurred are not beholden to tribal fishing rights. The treaties are the lone, immovable obstacle sranding in the way of meaningful fisheries changes in WA.

If the only economy our Legislature had to worry about was the Stare's, they would likely have changed the fisheries management paradigm long ago.

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#965218 - 09/30/16 02:39 PM Re: Their 50%: Central sound tribal Coho Fisheries [Re: Sky-Guy]
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What are the odds they open up some of the other marine areas soon?

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#965220 - 09/30/16 02:45 PM Re: Their 50%: Central sound tribal Coho Fisheries [Re: Sky-Guy]
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went to the confluence (puy/white) a couple days ago, this net was in the White tucked tight to shore, we saw another object in the Puyallup stem,about 60 yards from this net, that looked like it was being weighed down and pulling downriver... i guess that was another net, that was full of fish, what i saw was the bouy...

whats also BS, is that the Puyallups havent updated their netting hotline since the 1st, still....

whats also BS is that at this time last year, Voights had 2400 Kings and around 1000 Coho....

right now, they have over 3500 Kings and over 1000 Coho, the river was plugged with Coho during the opening, saw a few large schools pass by on the 22nd and 23rd....

i emailed the WDFW asking if we would get an opening since we are well above average, and everyone else is getting an opening...

i was told "i wish i had good news for you, but i dont"....

thanks WDFW

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#965221 - 09/30/16 03:00 PM Re: Their 50%: Central sound tribal Coho Fisheries [Re: FleaFlickr02]
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Registered: 04/20/09
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Loc: WaRshington
Originally Posted By: FleaFlickr02

The treaties are the lone, immovable obstacle sranding in the way of meaningful fisheries changes in WA.


Tribal harvest, or treaty rights, are not the biggest obstacle standing in the way. It is harvest TECHNIQUE. I say let them fish, but let them fish selectively.


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#965223 - 09/30/16 03:46 PM Re: Their 50%: Central sound tribal Coho Fisheries [Re: Sky-Guy]
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Registered: 10/28/09
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Yes, we all hate gillnets. But we'll be begging them to start using gillnets again when we realize how much more effort they have to put in to get their 50% selectively (meaning even less time on the water for us).

The Tribes also do not recognize wild fish as any different from hatchery fish (why should they, when both get the same price per pound?), so selective fishing is not something they will ever agree to (willingly).

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#965234 - 09/30/16 06:37 PM Re: Their 50%: Central sound tribal Coho Fisheries [Re: Sky-Guy]
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Registered: 04/18/12
Posts: 311
Loc: Elma, WA
FF02, please explain why we would get less time? Im just curious.

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#965246 - 09/30/16 11:19 PM Re: Their 50%: Central sound tribal Coho Fisheries [Re: Sky-Guy]
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Registered: 10/28/09
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If they fish selectively, it will require more time on the water to catch their share. The Tribes like to fish alone, so that means less time on the water for the rest of us. It would also mean a lot more of the hatchery fish culled before the upriver folk get a crack.

NOW... if what a person's concerned about is wild conservation, selective fishing is the way. Sacrifices will need to be made (more still) if we want that.

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#965286 - 10/02/16 03:14 PM Re: Their 50%: Central sound tribal Coho Fisheries [Re: 5 * General Evo]
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Registered: 12/06/07
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Originally Posted By: Evo
went to the confluence (puy/white) a couple days ago, this net was in the White tucked tight to shore, we saw another object in the Puyallup stem,about 60 yards from this net, that looked like it was being weighed down and pulling downriver... i guess that was another net, that was full of fish, what i saw was the bouy...

whats also BS, is that the Puyallups havent updated their netting hotline since the 1st, still....

whats also BS is that at this time last year, Voights had 2400 Kings and around 1000 Coho....

right now, they have over 3500 Kings and over 1000 Coho, the river was plugged with Coho during the opening, saw a few large schools pass by on the 22nd and 23rd....

i emailed the WDFW asking if we would get an opening since we are well above average, and everyone else is getting an opening...

i was told "i wish i had good news for you, but i dont"....

thanks WDFW



I think those nets are Mucks. I saw more upriver on the White. I don't think the Puyallups are participating yet.
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