Please, please, please, please do this.

We on the west side of the state are tired of the socialists and welfare queens east of the Cascades bleeding our coffers dry...pretty please all of you go make your own state.

Take everything south of Lewis County with you, too.

Those idiots would starve to death in six months, and when they came this way to try and find food there would be a TrumpWall (c) along the Pacific Crest Trail.

It would be fuckin fantastic, I am 100% all for this.

http://katu.com/news/politics/lawmaker-t...gton-with-idaho

Boise and Spokane would hate this idea...they're the only non-broke areas in the entire region...and in a few months they, too, would be destitute and eating dirt along with the rest.

Fish on...

Todd

From a fish and game standpoint it might work out great. Keep your tax money and stay off the lower columbia. Kind of funny how Washington's best salmon/steelhead fishery is based on Idaho planting LOTS of fish. Put a cap on non resident fishing/hunting tags. Let the new washington keep fighting over tribal, hatchery, land rights, etc.... we'll keep catching a chit ton of fish and killing monster deer and elk while you cocksuckers in the city keep watching your natural resources circle the drain.....

You will have to kill them to eat, you won't have any money or food otherwise.

How long do you think they would last then?

Think you get screwed on upriver fisheries now? Just wait until FuckingBrokeIstan is formed...you can eat carp and catfish.

Fish on...

Todd

I didn't question the tax generating element.... Read my statement again. It was strictly from a resource management standpoint, nothing more.

The no food part is complete horse chit, btw.... The money part is accurate, although the infrastructure wouldn't require the funds as it does to support pugetropolis.

An interesting topic for sure.

They may not have Microsoft and Boeing on the east side but they are rich in beef, game, produce, timber and hydro power. I'm sure they would be happy to split from us and then charge us high prices for power and food.

All the dead beats and dopers would migrate over here for the free handouts, because there won't be any handouts over there.

I don't want to pay them schit. I'd prefer if they paid their own way, and this is not only a good way for them to do it, but it's their "great idea".

As Rocky would say...

Go for it.

BM, there'd be no money for any government at all, much less resource management money...it would be a free for all until it was gone.

Fish on...

Todd

Agree. It would be a Rich G type government if it existed.... A limited government wouldn't be bad. I'm sure it's possible, just not probable as of right now.

Yikes - what a dumbfvck suggestion. Not sure what to think of all the succession chatter going around. Some of the Sultans of Cali are now talking taking Cali solo. And we've all heard from the arses in Texas for years & years. We are a big country and seem to be very divided. We've been here before and we should remember history. I think we are better together. It's what makes us...well...us. There really isn't any place better amiright?

Ah...forever the hopeful Independent. FML.

I kinda feel like these guys...

Nothing to see here!

AND ALL IS WELL!

Edit: "Succession" also meaning new state structures and / or redistricting on a state level

Todd for a guy who runs a spinner spoon business. You sure a idiot.

For you to even suggest this is comical. Plenty other places to get spoon blanks and spinner components.

Glad my business goes to Pentac.

Brewer -

He totally doesn't need me to defend, but he's entirely not. He's passionate and that's fuckin' awesome. If you happen to not be, that's cool too man, but that ain't l.i.v.i.n.

Also, when you are going to call someone out for being an idiot, try to words use correctly spelling and structure sentence have.

Just sayin'.....

Hmmm....there's a lot of guns on the dry side.
And there's a lot of weaner metrosexuals with money on the west side.
Just sayin'

Come together!

I love you!

NickD90 POTUS 2020.

"I don't golf!"

[Bleeeeep!]....NapD is becoming the Al Sharpton of the DS

brewer, I know reading and other liberal elitist things like that aren't your strong point, but if you read the article you will find it's the usual suspects who are proposing this idea...morons like you, only in eastern Oregon...I am just showing my unwavering support for them and the removal of the welfare state that they are from my tax dollars.

Fish on...

Todd

Not my style. Never has been. I'm hardly the character brewer plays on BBs.

maybe the west side can become a gun free zone.

So there is no freeloaders in western wa....

I hear that as part of his 100 Day Plan, Trump is going to banish by Executive Order, all public foreign language signage.
And he is going to institute mandatory English grammar and spelling classes.
Those that cannot pass the test will be deported to either their home country or home planet.

I spend enough time in that country, they'd make it. The tri cities and central Oregon are undergoing a technology boom of sorts with major players like, google, facebook, apple, and Amazon coming to town. Also their is a huge agricultural base there as well.

I'd be more worried about how much our power costs would rise, as FuckingBrokeIstan would have the vast majority of the dams and power production that Western Oregon/Washington uses.

LOL
They could withhold power for ransom.
The metrosexuals would have to pay exorbitant rates to the "Stan".

Keep taking those meds buddy!!

The Power is Federal in most cases, not the state's. Grant and Douglas PUD's have local dams, so they could raise their rates. In Oregon at least some of it is owned by utilities; who operate under their own rules. So, power rates on the westside would probably not budge.

The federal government owns most of those dams, the counties own a couple.

Fish on...

Todd

Remember that is the same country that supports the Bundys..

That, unfortunately, is why it would be a gigantic disaster...they would do away with all those "liberal restrictions" and just destroy it all, quickly, and then they'd be...

FuckingBrokeIstan

...in short order.

I guess they could then add in western Montana so that they could bleed Missoula and Bozeman dry, too, but soon they'll run out of cities to practice their Socialism on and everyone will be broke.

They don't need to be whining about those damn liberals on the coast...they need to be sending them monthly thank you letters for all of our tax dollars that pay their way so that they can go print Trump signs and get on Twitter to support the Bundys.

Fish on...

Todd

Fuk it, let them leave.

Heck, I rather be in fuckingBrokeIstan, the Portlandia any day of the week. (except for Tuesdays, because well, the [Bleeeeep!] is going to hit the fan)

Geebuzz Todd ..... You're not mad are ya ?

Not mad is my guess. Just exhausted whining and protesting the landslide lost killarie took on election day. All that nightly tantrum throwing is exhausting.

Nah, not mad at all...just amused at the rural secessionists that pipe up every four year election cycle about how the "other" side of the state is ruining their lives, when they are, in fact, subsidizing their lives.

I wish they would form a landlocked dirt poor state...but then who would they have to blame their misfortune on?

Fish on...

Todd

Just to get it right, county PUDs own 5 mainstem Columbia dams - Priest Rapids, Wanapum, Rock Island, Rocky Reach, and Wells. The PUDs negotiate long-term power contract sales with other utilities like Puget Sound Energy, Seattle City Light, Tacoma Power and others for the best rates they can get. If eastern WA joined Idaho, nothing would change in that regard. Those PUDs produce more power than their individual counties could ever hope to use, so they sell all that they don't use. If they raised their rates during the next contract negotiations, the buyers would just move on to the next best seller. Free market capitalism works like that, even among government owned utilities.

The federal government owns and operates Bonneville, Dalles, John Day, McNary, Chief Joseph, Grand Coulee, Ice Harbor, Lower Monumental, Little Goose, and Lower Granite. BPA markets the power for the feds, partly at market rate, and partly at lower prices to public utilities.

But I think the general idea is great. The like minded conservative rural citizens could join together and pass laws that the SCOTUS has ruled unconstitutional and have a grand old time. Until, as Todd mentioned, they run out of urban money to fund their infrastructure.

Good post Salmo, I learned something.

This secession talk is stupid. So is the urban vs. rural talk.

Just as stupid as the talk about Texas and their dumb asses thinking they should secede.

Nut the fvck up, people.

Dan,

Come on now, Texas should succeed. We don't want it, and Mexico won't take it back.

I still think the U.S. should annex Mexico. Then the border wall would be moot. Just think, more sunny beaches than California, tropical fishing, and duty-free tequila!

Sg

Any tape of Ivanka ?

Trumpster sounds a little like Fish Prince.?

Figure that out all by yourself lol?

Fish on...

Todd

Good to hear you're laughing.
Thought you might be protesting tonight.

Weak, you and RvW must have the same writers.

Fish on...

Todd

Yes he is part of my crack team of trolls, who review every tweet and speech I make. They are all dancing with me in that gif. In fact, if you look closely, you can see that fatfuk rolling around on the floor in the background. You don't think I can make up all the horseschit I spout all by my myself do you?

I'd crank it up a few notches, but I'm not a hater.

😁

Speaking of hate....

http://www.theamericanmirror.com/sick-hillary-supporters-wave-rape-melania-sign-dc-protest/

Hillary supporters wave ‘rape Melania’ sign at DC protest

Hillary Clinton’s supporters protesting the election of Donald Trump are now urging the rape of his wife.

Agitators gathered outside Trump’s hotel on Pennsylvania Avenue on Saturday night and at least one person was carrying a “rape Melania” sign just outside the main entrance.

After protesters converged on Trump’s hotel, they were to march to the White House for a “candleless vigil.”

One Twitter user notified the Secret Service via the social media platform, but it’s unclear whether they will take the threat seriously

Don't worry it will never happen, the Secret Service won't let Bill Clinton anywhere near Melina. So looks like Billy Jeff will have to satisfy himself with jacking off to her nudes in Playboy.

Is there any government agency happier with a Trump victory than the Secret Service?

No Chit. 500x fold increase in SS spending coming right up. Think about how much its going to cost to protect Trump Tower alone. It's a fortress now and it will remain that way for a LONG time. Honestly, its going to be pretty messy with his properties and businesses. He may have to sell his US based properties (or at least change the name out front) and get a bullet proof trust where he dissolves himself completely. Doing anything less will probably land him in Clinton territory (i.e. shady at best). Gonna be fun and expensive to watch.

Trump isn't taking a dime of his salary. Meanwhile grandma Obongo is requesting a $160,000 a year pension for taking care of her granddaughters.

Just think....Someday there'll be an aircraft carrier named after him. USS Trump

Maybe a missile named after him to like a surface to everything type missile. It just blows the chit out of everything.

No kidding, they probably threw a party.