This is what I heard straight from the horse's mouth this past summer. Ain't that right, Paker?

Rubber is the only way to go for the lazy slobs fishing outta boats.

Just buy a KUIU Yukon or First Lite SEAK Stormtight and move on.

I'm confused. Is the problem a wet ass, a cold ass, or perhaps something more personal like a self-consciousness issue?

If either of the latter are the case, you might check out the products from Skhoop. Warm and they keep those riverside eyes from undressing you inappropriately. My wife loves hers. Waders required for a dry ass though.

Someone with adult level education would just layer a good fleece or sweater under their waders.
Hell what's your address I'll send ya $3 so you can hit up goodwill.....

Stormr Jackets are pretty bomb

Sky-Guy nailed it. Get on steepandcheap.com, rei-garage, or backcountry outlet and find a 20,000 mm waterproof or Gore-Tex shell. If you get cold, find a primaloft insulated jacket to wear underneath. Skip anything with a DWR coating as it'll wash off pretty quick.

I ended up finding some Acteryx ski pants at an REI garage sale for $33, and they've been the best rain paints I've owned.

http://www.backcountry.com/marmot-pallisades-jacket-mens-mar00lr

http://www.backcountry.com/houdini-4-ace-jacket-mens

"Well some of us have this thing called a pro deal (including me), so we buy Simms if it fits the purpose at prices we'd be crazy not to take them up on. The trouble is, I'm still not buying much Simms with the deal cuz they aren't as good as they think they are or all the fly guys think they are."


Crazy is being a "Pro" for a product that "ain't as good as they think they are".
Unless of course you share that way of thinking.


The real "pros" who fish for a living in the wettest conditions in Alaska wear rubber. Not some squirt your employees down with a fire hose yuppie chit.
Perhaps you should roll on the rubber and you wouldn't get a wet a$$.

+1 for a rubber jacket. Cheapest and most functional option.

Agree... These are the top choice for CHARTER captains and their faithful occupants during adverse weather. Maybe we can switch gears and talk about charter boat outer wear and fashion.....

If you got a moist A$$ on a charter boat then you might want to go with a different crew.
I say might because I realize the expectations on a California charter boat are different.

Per usual, I have nothing substantial to offer this conversation. I just wanted to post in this chit show.

Beezy is Moist.

Moist. Moist. Moist.

Had to go back and see if I was in the dark side.
This thread has potential.

oh, and a dude that admits that he is moist should be drowned in the tears of a baby harp seal

Looks like Frank has gotten himself very moist talking about Charter boats....all the rubber in the world won't keep that boy dry

"That's not exactly true. GoreTex and Hydus 3L are waterproof, breathable and leak proof fabrics. But they're spendy."

That's BS.
Water repellent for a time but never waterproof.

Reach past the gimmicks, grab the rubber, or be accountable for the spreading of moisture.

"I have never had a drop of water inside my dry pants or jacket."

I imagine the guy that invented the term waterproof for these breathable garments probably lived in California as well.
Great state to field test rain gear.
Some real soakers down there.


"Are you still sporting your neoprene on the rivers?"

I don't sport waders.

This doesn't have anything to do with the water proof/resistant issue, but here's a solution for the keeping warm part.

Having a bad back, I put a ThermaCare heat wrap on one cold morning on the Columbia and to my surprise if kept me nice and warm for the several hours I was in a boat. They claim the heat will last up to 16 hours.

Almost all quote waterproof jackets will eventually start soaking water. I was photographing rain gear for the Fenwick catalog several years ago and it shed water so well I could have duck taped the pants to a pair of rubber knee boots and waded in the river up to the zipper. After five or six years they just soaked the water up. I was somewhat able to get them back to shedding rain drops by using a treatment that you run them in the washing machine and air drying them.

The are not nearly as comfortable but my 40 year old Helley Hanson rubber gear sheds water like the day I first used it, which I seldom do because I usually use the newer and lighter clothing.

If want to stay dry, wear a rubber jacket.

This is best if you are a throttle jockey...if you actually steelhead fish, then rowing can get pretty warm in a rubber jacket.

I would love to contribute something useful to this thread, but that's about all I've got right there. I wear a rubber jacket with fabric overlay, and when it gets too warm rowing, I unzip it and it cools off. I've never worried too much about getting wet while fishing...this isn't knitting, after all.

Fish on...

Todd

P.S. I am not a Mod.

I do the same thing,never fails to keep you dry.

Boy,ain't that the truth. This myth needs to end.