Melba does not see them, but according to her they frequent her property.

I know I have not been swindled because I know the context of the samples I sent in and I have 2 first hand visual encounters from close proximity.

Dan,

http://www.theblackvault.com/documentarc...oot-references/

Army corps of engineers, 1975, fairly compelling disclosure. Even talks about hair samples tested by the FBI.

I know the guy who owns this page "the black vault" its all unclassified documents he obtained via FOI requests. Pretty interesting stuff if you have time to look at it.

"Pretty accurate" is great, but you know what we have now? Actual photos of the whole Earth. So, no - I am not impressed by "pretty accurate" maps. Or crystals. Or ouija boards. Or essential oils.

I wouldn't buy the coelacanth story, either, but one was caught. And there were pictures. And then an actual specimen.

Believe me when I say I will change my tune any time you come up with a photo, or some actual evidence for Atlantis, bigfoot, gnomes, and any other thing you are sure exists.

It's not asking a lot. You know Nate's blurry moon pics? I accept them as evidence the moon exists. I will do the same with any photo you can produce of a bigfoot, gnome, or Atlantis.

I got you covered Rich

Eyewitness testimony is so unreliable it shouldn't even be considered evidence in a legal proceeding.

Dan, I don't get it?

An actual real elf that does not believe in Gnomes, Bigfoot or anything else.

I guess when Santa had you evicted from the North Pole for making [Bleeeeep!] toys he had you lobotomized by ferries who sprinkled grumpy dust and forget everything dust on you. Now your just a grumpy elf who doesn't know he an elf.

Sory Dan, I had to take a shot, your just disagreeing with me just because and not even considering what I propose in good faith, your not even giving it a legitimate consideration based on the available information.

It's all good.

Because stirring the pot is so much fun.....

Just for grins, let's assume that Bigfoot lives in Mt Rainier and in Olympic NP. Further, they are nocturnal, live in the forest, are smart enough to consciously avoid humans, and live in low densities. If one was out there and 100 m from the trail, would you see it? My point is that we actually visit/see a tiny fraction of the landscape. Just because a million folks visit the area doesn't mean that the whole area is searched/viewed.

Not saying they're out there, but that there are lots of places where we never really look.

Refer back to the effort Todd describes about chasing those BT is a small path of woods.

Cool story, but what about droppings, hair samples, skeletal remains, etc. They police up all that stuff?




Possible? Sure.

Probable? No.

Bigfoot loves Huckleberry smoothies.

Very little fecal evidence when he is consuming them.

Good lord.
My friend just bought a cabin right there on the Forest Service ground.
I sure hope he doesn't hear any wood knocking, cabin slaps, or fluid squirts.

If they managed to stay away from the trails the remains/hair/etc would be similarly hard to find. Not saying they exist but we really don't examine, closely, a whole lot of territory.

I used to do spawner surveys in a couple creeks. We'd do 100% of the anadromous zone weekly from September through June, counting salmon and steelhead. We had the advantage of knowing how many fish were in the creeks (2-4m wide) because we counted them above a rack. We saw less than 10% of the steelhead and 20-30% of the coho on the really clear days. They were there, just hidden.

I hear what you are saying CM. No, I don't believe in Squatch. BUT, there are entire small mountains & valleys just off the side of the road that see ZERO people year round. I can think of one area that has a log book up on a peak. It has 10 entries all time. Nobody goes in there and it's as wild as can be and for good reason...it's a miserable bitch to get into.

It's my tendency to not believe. I actually need evidence.

Of anything.

I don't discriminate against bigfoot. Get some decent evidence and I'm open to change my mind.

Decent evidence isn't a house slap or rocks being thrown by an unseen creature.

Here's some interesting evidence from last month... pics included

http://www.bfro.net/GDB/show_report.asp?id=58937

Wow, OLD snow boot tracks.

A day old Sherlock with a stride you can't match. Listen to this story for a pucker factor....even if b.s. it'll make you keep the lights on.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWjc1DvSbgY