I'll try simple, but I bet you will make it complicated asfuck, as usual.

Laws (proposed or otherwise), are laws...they get debated, passed, and if necessary, are subject to judicial review to see if they Constitutional.

Trump proposed just flat out taking guns, without due process, with no legal underpinnings at all.

Just grabbing them, if that makes more sense to a right wingnut.

See? Simple.

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Todd

Trumps governing style, “Here hold my beer while I ......”

Evo forgot that Trump is the President now and not some useless retarded spray sun tan loving reality show TV host.

actually he didnt, he specifically reference the whackjob Nikolas Cruz, and what he meant by that, is they should have taken his guns AFTER THE 45 CALLS TO THE POLICE, and the FBI being notified that he posted what he did on the Youtube page... THEN, make him go through the process of getting them back... he didnt commit a crime apparently so they couldnt charge him with anything, but if they would have taken his sh!t, and made him go through the courts, this likely never would have happened...

thats what hes talking about....


the exact same LAW is in place in Washington state....

Actually, that's exactly what he did say.

You may be surprised to find that calling the cops, even 45 times, isn't due process when you are suspending someone's Constitutional rights.

You don't just get to go grab them without a court order, and you don't get a court order without due process.

Doing it in reverse order is illegal, and violates at least three Amendments to the Constitution.

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Todd

"Trump interrupted. “Or, Mike, take the firearms first and then go to court,” he said. “Because a lot of times, by the time you go to court, it takes so long to go to court, to get the due process procedures. I like taking the guns early, like in this crazy man's case that just took place in Florida. … To go to court would have taken a long time.”"

actually, thats exactly what he said, but you seem to be making up sh!t in your head...

and again, as i said, Feinstien and the other twit tried to pass this last MAY, and are encouraging other states to follow suit like Wa and others...

the red flag law, means if someone lies to the cops, the cops can take that false information to a judge, and if the judge reads it at 3AM in the fvcking morning, and goes, "yes i approve", then the cops go take the persons guns, just for "acting violent", which could be telling people to fvck off and calling them idiots all the time, that has violent tendencies... THEN, the person gets to go to court, and prove that they are legally able, and mentally able to own the firearms...

posting what he posted on Youtube was a TERRORISTIC THREAT if you want to go by LAW, the police should have taken his guns away at that point, PERIOD...

the SAME LAW, is in place in the state you live in Todd, but you clearly dont pay attention...

here, this happened 2 weeks ago, all the kid did was wrote he was gonna shoot up a school in a fvcking journal, hell, someone else could have even wrote it, and said he did... in this case he did write it, and is now in jail, on attempted murder charges, and HE DIDNT EVEN COMMIT A CRIME....

due process right?

https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/15/us/grandmother-foils-school-shooting-plan-everett-trnd/index.html

Evo is fired up about this because he know his guns SHOULD be taken away.

what? fired up? no im sick of democrats that always blame sh!t on something that even their own party has enacted...

if you dont like it, denounce the democrats too, leave the party if its so bad....


and fvck you Jake, as ive said a million times, you dont know sh!t about me, so STFU and mind your own business....

All I know is the garbage you post here, which is quite a bit. Do you see anyone else posting pages and pages of fu.cked up stories about themselves?

It’s funny that Evo was recently posting stories about waving his gun around trailer parks and Wal-Mart’s and here he is foaming at the mouth about people’s guns maybe maybe not being taken away. Evo should be #1 on the list of idiots that shouldn’t own guns.

you asked dipsh!t, i went over a year without telling you sh!t about it, you kept bugging me, i gave you what you wanted, and you bitch about it

and thats exactly it, thats ALL you know... for ALL you know, i could me making it up....

you clearly dont know lethal force laws, or firearms, so stop talking about firearms and peoples rights to own them...

now, you are making up lies as well, which is what gets people in trouble, or killed... and if they do get in trouble, and it comes to be that the other person LIED about it, well, you will have your day in court as well, and it wont be pretty either.....

You’re a [Bleeeeep!] idiot.

no you are a fvcking idiot Jake... look up disparity of force..

its the use of lethal force against an ostensibly unarmed attacker...

in my case, the guy had a machete sized knife, was coming towards me, and stopped about 3 feet away... should i have let him stab me before i pulled my weapon? thats the stupid sh!t that gets people killed, so be my guest, go ahead Jake, be an idiot...

oh, here, ill do your work for you dipsh!t... why dont you read up and learn some sh!t instead of sitting there with your thumb up your ass....

https://armedcitizensnetwork.org/images/stories/Network_2014-09.pdf

You’re so smart Evo!

a hell of alot smarter than you it seems...

thats your only response when you are wrong?

you should stick to staying silent.... your mouth might get you in trouble one day... hmmm, that sounds familiar, where have i heard that from?

That’s what I say when I see some idiot passing google searches off as intelligence.

google searches?

must not have paid attention to what i have written about Marty and Gila Hayes, and Massad Ayoob for oh, the last 10 FVCKING YEARS....

just zip it potato head, you have nothing to contribute....

Not following you.