#987295 - 03/29/18 08:04 AM
Re: Skagit rally
[Re: Salmo g.]
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River Nutrients
Registered: 11/25/01
Posts: 2834
Loc: Marysville
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As of last night (at NOF meeting) WDFW relayed that as of then they had not received a the permit from NOAA. WDFW has hired the staff to do the monitoring are ready to go shortly after receiving their permit.
They report that on their weekly calls the last 3 weeks they have been told next week. They have another call today or tomorrow. Next week????
Curt
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#987301 - 03/29/18 09:46 AM
Re: Skagit rally
[Re: Salmo g.]
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Repeat Spawner
Registered: 08/02/12
Posts: 1033
Loc: In a drift boat...
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What's the point? Everyone in a race to catch the last one. Same could be said for the entire OP as well. No thank you.
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#987303 - 03/29/18 10:45 AM
Re: Skagit rally
[Re: Salmo g.]
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Juvenile at Sea
Registered: 09/05/14
Posts: 195
Loc: Stanwood WA
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Thanks Smalma and Salmo g for keeping us up to date!
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#987305 - 03/29/18 11:56 AM
Re: Skagit rally
[Re: Salmo g.]
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Three Time Spawner
Registered: 06/03/06
Posts: 1524
Loc: Tacoma
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I have got to wonder if any of the analysis they do will be carried over to next year, or if all the time and resources spent be wasted when they don't get the job done. In the private world, they would be getting penalized for everyday we are not fishing. In the end, they would not be paid and perhaps sued for losses. In their world, they probably will wait another week and then apply for over time to get it done by the end of April.
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#987310 - 03/29/18 03:27 PM
Re: Skagit rally
[Re: Salmo g.]
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River Nutrients
Registered: 11/21/07
Posts: 7578
Loc: Olema,California,Planet Earth
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Next year's analysis will be based on next year's run size. They will have to evaluate against that run.
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#987317 - 03/29/18 04:42 PM
Re: Skagit rally
[Re: Salmo g.]
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ReefSkunk
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Looks to me like the state may end up with the 2 week season they wanted in the first place, if we’re “lucky!”
Hiring the employees to run a presumptive 6 week season, well before the season length was set or approved, seems like a pretty big blunder by WDFW on several fronts. I know I’d get fired if I hired a bunch of employees without knowing if or when I’d actually need them.
I’d be curious to know if those people are being paid to perform other tasks, if they’re being paid to do nothing, if they’re sitting around waiting to maybe work etc.
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#987323 - 03/29/18 06:23 PM
Re: Skagit rally
[Re: Carcassman]
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Juvenile at Sea
Registered: 09/05/14
Posts: 195
Loc: Stanwood WA
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Next year's analysis will be based on next year's run size. They will have to evaluate against that run. Thanks Carcassman for confirming my suspicions tonight! Nothin' better than job security!
Edited by OLD FB (03/29/18 06:24 PM)
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#987336 - 03/30/18 08:04 AM
Re: Skagit rally
[Re: Carcassman]
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River Nutrients
Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 13423
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Next year's analysis will be based on next year's run size. They will have to evaluate against that run. That's not how it works. The RMP and PEPD analyze whether fishing under the proposed plan would jeopardize the continued existence and recovery of Skagit steelhead. Since the take limit is graduated according to the estimated run size, the managers and analysts are persuaded that fishing won't interfere with the conservation goal. As an added precaution, the approval of the plan is for five years, at which time the results will be re-analyzed for verification. Sg
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#987337 - 03/30/18 08:08 AM
Re: Skagit rally
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River Nutrients
Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 13423
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Looks to me like the state may end up with the 2 week season they wanted in the first place, if we’re “lucky!”
Hiring the employees to run a presumptive 6 week season, well before the season length was set or approved, seems like a pretty big blunder by WDFW on several fronts. I know I’d get fired if I hired a bunch of employees without knowing if or when I’d actually need them.
I’d be curious to know if those people are being paid to perform other tasks, if they’re being paid to do nothing, if they’re sitting around waiting to maybe work etc. The state didn't ever advocate for a two week season. That was the remark of the regional biologist before he was given the authorization and budget to hire technicians to do the monitoring work. It takes time to hire and train personnel, so WDFW hired technicians on the time frame provided to them by NMFS. They really expected to be able to begin the fishing season around the first of March. Clearly, NMFS dropped the ball. The technicians have been assigned to other, but lower priority, work until the fishing season opens or the funding runs out. Sg
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#987383 - 04/01/18 06:45 AM
Re: Skagit rally
[Re: Salmo g.]
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Juvenile at Sea
Registered: 01/03/17
Posts: 155
Loc: Hood Canal
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#987677 - 04/06/18 09:21 PM
Re: Skagit rally
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Juvenile at Sea
Registered: 09/05/14
Posts: 195
Loc: Stanwood WA
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That all important paperwork must have fallen on the floor and got swept up by the janitor.....Oh Well.......... The paperwork....uh, Ron Warren took it home to wipe his as$ with it! Glad to know the shareholders(?) received consideration this year! Can't make it up now can you Bay wolf.... Business as usual I see... Sad...Damn Sad!
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#987931 - 04/12/18 02:36 PM
Re: Skagit rally
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Juvenile at Sea
Registered: 08/12/13
Posts: 107
Loc: Arlington, Washington
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Edited by Brent K (04/12/18 02:40 PM)
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#987957 - 04/13/18 03:43 AM
Re: Skagit rally
[Re: Salmo g.]
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Juvenile at Sea
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