#990438 - 06/19/18 11:23 AM
Re: Trump—current events.
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B-b-but what about evil T.Rump ripping innocent children from the grasp of their loving mothers and locking them in cages? Odd thing...this was a policy enacted by Bush II, continued through the Obama era, and now being blamed on Trump. Many of the images they are showing of the kids in lockup on the MSM are actually from during the Obama Regime. Truth is, the southern border has been bleeding with illegals from Mexico and other countries south of there for so long that I'm not sure there is an acceptable solution remaining. The entire situation sucks ass and swallows IMHO.
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#990440 - 06/19/18 11:43 AM
Re: Trump—current events.
[Re: Lucky Louie]
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it was actually 1993 with the Reno VS Flores case...
with that said, when have we EVER allowed children to stay with parents while they are in custody? in prison, if a woman has a baby, they get to keep it for 1 year, and then it goes into the hands of DHS.... other than that, children have never been allowed to stay with their parents while incarcerated....
and alot of the children that people are seeing, are victims of sex/human traffic related crimes, who arent even with their parents to begin with....
not one child has been taken from their parents at a legal port of entry while applying for amnesty, the ones that try to sneak through, (usually trafficked, not always however) are the ones that are detained until deportation... that is a choice they made, they knew the consequences, yet still chose to do it (minus being forced)....
theres a reason they dont want to do it legally... theres also a reason they want to come here, and its not because of violence... its because of money, and it always has been....
if Trump is such a Hitler, who in their right mind would want to immigrate to this country?
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#990442 - 06/19/18 12:45 PM
Re: Trump—current events.
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if Trump is such a Hitler, who in their right mind would want to immigrate to this country? Hitler eventually took himself out of power and Germany once again rebounded and is now standing on the world stage. Maybe those who are entering our country are hoping that history will repeat itself? Maybe not by Trump taking himself out of power, but eventually, he will be out of power and out of The Oval Office. May take 6 more years.....
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#990448 - 06/19/18 02:08 PM
Re: Trump—current events.
[Re: Lucky Louie]
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sure, but this didnt start over night... the exact same sh!t was going on under Obama, Bush, and Clinton....
the media is also lying, the people arrested litterally have the choice to have their kids removed... they can either be deported, or apply for amnesty, and if they do that, they remain in the custody of officials for more than 20 days, and therefore, the kids cannot stay with them....
simple fact of the matter, is that the US has never allowed children to live with parents while incarcerated, which would be incarcerating the children regardless.... people that cross that border illegally know what they are doing, they know exactly what will happen if they get caught, yet now theres an outrage?
is it fvcked up when someone robs a bank and their kids get taken from them because they go to prison? no, whats fvcked up is the parent that knew the consequences of their actions would lead to said disaster, and they put their children in that whole mess with their stupid decisions....
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#990457 - 06/19/18 05:22 PM
Re: Trump—current events.
[Re: Lucky Louie]
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Idiot Senate Dems lead by Dianne Feinstein have all signed onto a bill that would make it illegal to separate kids from FELONY parents within 100 miles of the border. Justification for having kids if I ever heard one... 1) 2/3rds of US population lives within 100 miles of a border 2) 100 miles includes all "ports" regardless of location in the US. Salt Lake City is an immigration port for example 3) The bill DOES NOT distinguish between illegals and US citizens What a bunch of morans. This is a prime example of why Dems can never be allowed near the 2A. Feelz instead of realz leads to rushing poorly thought out and hastily put together legislation to score constituent brownie points instead of actually being serious about resolving problems. I do recognize that both sides pull stunts like this and it gets so very old.
Edited by NickD90 (06/19/18 07:39 PM)
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#990462 - 06/20/18 08:33 AM
Re: Trump—current events.
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Idiot Senate Dems lead by Dianne Feinstein have all signed onto a bill that would make it illegal to separate kids from FELONY parents within 100 miles of the border. Justification for having kids if I ever heard one... 1) 2/3rds of US population lives within 100 miles of a border 2) 100 miles includes all "ports" regardless of location in the US. Salt Lake City is an immigration port for example 3) The bill DOES NOT distinguish between illegals and US citizens What a bunch of morans. This is a prime example of why Dems can never be allowed near the 2A. Feelz instead of realz leads to rushing poorly thought out and hastily put together legislation to score constituent brownie points instead of actually being serious about resolving problems. I do recognize that both sides pull stunts like this and it gets so very old. Feinstein has more in common with Trump than we might have guessed. They both shoot from the hip, acting on impulses, and showing no capacity for critical thinking or other positive thought processes. Best not to paint with the brush of stereotyping. Just as not every conservative is a whack-a-doodle extremist, not every Democrat is "coming to get yer guns."
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#990465 - 06/20/18 10:45 AM
Re: Trump—current events.
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I'm going to make a wild guess here Salmo. No one would ever want the guns you own.
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#990470 - 06/20/18 12:19 PM
Re: Trump—current events.
[Re: Lucky Louie]
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3 shots......................Same hole.
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#990477 - 06/20/18 06:05 PM
Re: Trump—current events.
[Re: Lucky Louie]
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Salmo - As an Inde, the only Dem I know for certain that isn't coming for my guns is Todd. All others remain suspect until proven otherwise. Paker - did you see the actual video Trump showed Kim during their summit? It looked like the beginning to Miami Vice. Boobs, cigarette boats and shiny golden things. I highly recommend viewing that video for the giggles alone.
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#990481 - 06/20/18 06:48 PM
Re: Trump—current events.
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I'm going to make a wild guess here Salmo. No one would ever want the guns you own. Don't under estimate those Daisy Red Ryder's Bart. Those bad boy's are pushing those copper full metal BB's @ around 400 feet per second. The muzzle rise is brutal. <grin>
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#990491 - 06/21/18 04:58 AM
Re: Trump—current events.
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B-b-but what about evil T.Rump ripping innocent children from the grasp of their loving mothers and locking them in cages? Odd thing...this was a policy enacted by Bush II, continued through the Obama era, and now being blamed on Trump. Many of the images they are showing of the kids in lockup on the MSM are actually from during the Obama Regime. Truth is, the southern border has been bleeding with illegals from Mexico and other countries south of there for so long that I'm not sure there is an acceptable solution remaining. The entire situation sucks ass and swallows IMHO. President Donald Trump signs executive order on immigration to keep families together which has beset other administrations for many decades. He said there will still be zero tolerance on illegal entry into the country, and expects those wanting to enter the country to do so at port of entry to start the process. He wants this executive order to be a stop gap measure until a comprehensive bill that is in the works goes through congress addressing all the border/immigration problems of the present and past administrations running for decades, so this is finally done right once and for all. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pChK7hUEdzw&feature=youtu.be
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#990492 - 06/21/18 05:50 AM
Re: Trump—current events.
[Re: Lucky Louie]
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With our President signing his Executive Order today, it has become obvious that this whole deal, described as being the Democrat's fault, Obama, Bush, yada yada yada, was nothing more than a ploy to get Congress to fund the wall using these kids as pawns. You know, the one that Mexico was going to pay for! He has totally pissed me off and for me, I don't think he can ever gain my trust. End of rant!
Edited by eddie (06/21/18 05:51 AM)
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#990493 - 06/21/18 06:18 AM
Re: Trump—current events.
[Re: eddie]
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With our President signing his Executive Order today, it has become obvious that this whole deal, described as being the Democrat's fault, Obama, Bush, yada yada yada, was nothing more than a ploy to get Congress to fund the wall using these kids as pawns. You know, the one that Mexico was going to pay for! He has totally pissed me off and for me, I don't think he can ever gain my trust. End of rant! Ya...sure. Seems that no matter Trump does, people will find a way to twist it into something bad. I've become "apolitical", meaning I don't much give a sh!t about one party or the other. I do, however, care about results, and this is a step in the right direction.
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#990494 - 06/21/18 06:36 AM
Re: Trump—current events.
[Re: Lucky Louie]
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Golddigger, Let's see, Trump creates the problem (zero tolerance policy) announced in April. Then he says that he can't do anything about it, only Congress can. Then he blames Obama, Bush, Clinton - this whole thing can't be his fault! And then he signs an EO to solve the problem he created. And some people now say "Don't twist this into something bad". Unfreaking believable. It is time to wake up Sheeple!!!
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#990496 - 06/21/18 07:01 AM
Re: Trump—current events.
[Re: Lucky Louie]
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River Nutrients
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The separation of families and the treatment of children was not a problem for any previous administration, for whatever reason it was not a problem. This group turned it into front page news around the world. They own it. And they constantly said that it was done to force Congress to act.
It really would be nice to find some way to make Congress act. I did notice, though, that the House was considering two options. There intent was to move one forward but only of it would pass without and D votes. Rather than working for a solution they continue the practice of single party rule that has bedeviled us for decades.
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#990497 - 06/21/18 07:42 AM
Re: Trump—current events.
[Re: Lucky Louie]
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River Nutrients
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Can someone please remind me what Congress’s job is again.
Seems to me all they do is pass a budget so they can get paid and then bitch about POTUS acting like a king or not acting like a king depending on whether POTUS is or is not doing Congress’s job.
Until Congress understands that those on the other side of the aisle are the opponent and the WH is the enemy we are screwed.
But at least this way half of the country has something to be outraged about which seems to be the current mission statement of Congress.
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#990499 - 06/21/18 08:21 AM
Re: Trump—current events.
[Re: Lucky Louie]
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River Nutrients
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The above attitude (the other side and the WH are the enemy) is what got us where we are. As long as that is the attitude, we're screwed.
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#990502 - 06/21/18 08:43 AM
Re: Trump—current events.
[Re: Lucky Louie]
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Lord of the Chums
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just wait till children start getting molested in there... because its detention, and children in detention are 5 times more likely to be raped than adults...
then they will say that the conditions are inhumane (a democratic senator has already said that, it wasnt even 6 hours after the EO was signed), which means there is only 1 option, to open the borders to everyone....
im sure the democrats would love that, more votes right?
what i find seriously funny, is how there are "fisherman", that complain about how Trump treats illegal immigrants, yet they bitch about the habitat destruction and population growth that contributed to the destruction, which contributed to the loss of fish that they enjoy fishing for....
kinda dumbfounding that you could be against massive population growth, and the habitat destruction that follows said growth, but you want to contribute to the problem....
Obama gave migrant children to human traffickers and rings, because the people lied and said they were the parents... so, why arent the democrats saying anything about that?
because as Schmucker said, "weve gotta keep the focus on Trump"... bascially doing the same, not taking responsibility for the gang you claims actions....
SSDD...
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