I didn't vote for 1639, but it will probably pass.

As I always note in any gun control conversation, gun owners will eventually lose out because all we ever bring to the table is "we need more guns"...parroting the corporate mouthpiece NRA.

When the options to reduce gun violence are "more guns" and "anything else at all", eventually "anything else at all" will win.

Fish on...

Todd

if it passes it will go to the SC and get dropped...

WA is a preemptive state, they cant make laws like that....

I would assume that it is unconstitutional on it's face. "The right of the individual citizen to bear arms in defense of himself, or the state, shall not be impaired." How are 18, 19 and 20 year olds not to be considered citizens. They can be drafted into the military, handed an AR-15 and told to go shoot some brown skinned person in some sh!thole desert half way around the world but can't own a gun in their own home to protect themselves?

If they were in the military they wouldn't be handed an AR-15

Technically, it's not an AR-15 because the AR-15 is the civilian variant. They would be handed the fully automatic capable version, the M-16 or perhaps the M4 carbine. But these anti-gun fvcktards don't know jack sh!t about guns and have latched onto the "AR-15s are bad" bleating and probably don't even know the difference between an AR-15, M-16, M4 or even a 10/22.

AK-47. He meant AK-47

I think you're right

You don't see Israeli synagogues getting shot up. Maybe if American Diaspora Jews weren't pussified democrat libtards they'd be capable of self defense. You don't see Israeli synagogues shilling for refugees, Isreali synagogues shill for TRUMP! You don't see Israeli synagogues without guns on site. Imagine being raised in a culture that laments 6,000,000 of your people being killed over religion, living in a country that let's you own as many guns as you'd like, and still not defending yourself. The morticians report should have cognitive dissonance and being a dumbfvck as the cause of death.

I feel ZERO sympathy for these dumb liberal fvcks who couldn't see the collateral damage coming due to their shilling for refugees and bothered to even have a single gun onsite.

You're not that bad Paker. When the Right Wing Death Squads are rolling through Seattle killing libtards, just flash them the OK sign and give them a subtle nod so they know you are on our side.

Change the title to Jewish Center you worthless scumbag, Eddy. You gungrabbing cvnt.

According to Israel's Chief Rabbi, David Lau, this was a "Jewish Center" and not a synagogue. Actual real synagogues don't allow homosexuals into them as homosexuality is contrary to Judaism. Shows what you know you dumbfvcking lowlife scumbag, eddy. Actual real synagogues have a Cohen as a rabbi and a Levite standing guard. There was not a Cohen rabbi or even a Levite security guard. If they were acting like proper Jews the Levite would have turned this attacker into swiss cheese.

This Tree of Life was not a synagogue of actual Jews but of Satan worshipers who claim to be Jews but are not and lie.

"I know your affliction and your poverty--though you are rich! And I am aware of the slander of those who falsely claim to be Jews, but are in fact a synagogue of Satan." Rev 2:9

"I will make those who are of the synagogue of Satan, who claim to be Jews though they are not, but are liars--I will make them come and fall down at your feet and acknowledge that I have loved you." Rev 3:9

HEY EDDIE!

Every single drug that is illegal can still be found in every city in the US. guns are also not the only way to mass murder people. You can drive trucks into crowds, fly planes into buildings, blow up planes, busses, derail train, all these things are illegal.

Why do YOU focus on guns so much?

All banning something does is creates a massive black market for it overnight. That's why heroin has been illegal almost 100 years and it's still in every town and city in America. You can make a crude but functional slam fire shotgun with nothing more than a few pipes and other easily acquirable household items, in a manner of minutes. Do you know how easy it really is to make a gun? I guess a fag like you wouldn't know much about machine shops. I can crank out several AR15's from the machine shop in my garage per day if need be.

All you will do is feed the black market and give criminals more power, and they will still have guns. Guess who else will too? Me and in that sort of Chaos, I'll be roaming around killing anyone who has ever said anything in public or posted anything or the internet against guns. Guns are a constitutional right you fvcking retard. Unless you have enough votes to amend the constitution you can svck my dick and even then it will only be while I hold my 9mm ghost gun to your faggot forehead.

Gun grabbing faggots like you are why I have guns. Who are going to take away the guns? Other people with guns! "Killing people with guns is bad unless the government does it then it’s OK".

Fvck you Eddie, you goddamn scumbag lowlife. Fvck off pu$$y ass bitch just go eat a dick and shut your fvcking dicksucking mouth. How else are we supposed to KILL commies like you without guns? You'd prefer a fast death over a slow one right?

Your herring stinks bad Steele!

Still don't have anything to say for yourself, you fvcking cvnt. You still are disrespecting ISRAEL by calling this a synagogue in your title. Fvck you, go vote to ban guns you fvcking limp d!cked pu$$y bitch. On the day of the rope, when you are dangling from a fvcking tree other libtards thoughts and prayers are gonna be with you. Fvck you scumbag! DIE IN A FIRE!!!1!!!

YES!!!!

I1639 is unconstitutional, in order to participate you have to voluntarily waive your 4th and 5th amendment rights. Your private property is an extension of you and is also protected. You cannot be forced to waive your power.

A lot of money could be saved if the Legislature passed a law that required Initiatives to be legal (one issue, comply with law) and constitutional prior to submission to voters. The recent case, on the 1639, where all the Sec of State could do is certify sufficient valid signatures, emphasized the need to a better filter.

There are a lack of pro 1639 banners because the main backer, may he burn in hell forever, was Paul Allen. Yeah lymphoma!!!! Fvck him I'm glad he died childless and alone. I'm sure Vulcan will try and fvck this state for years to come but they dropped the ball on 1639 after he died. Too bad it still passed due to fvcktards like Eddie. Fvck you eddie, I hope you die next.

This initiative is unconstitutional and will die in court. Not to mention that it is unenforceable anyway. If anyone needs me, I'll be in my cabin out in Northern Idaho waiting for the FEDS so we can reenact Ruby Ridge.

My suspicion is that 1639, or at least parts of it, may not past Constitutional muster.

That being said...and I know it sounds like a broken record...as long as we as gunowners let the gun manufacturers corporate marketing firm (the NRA) keep speaking for us, and answer every question with "more guns", then we will continue to lose more and more gun freedoms.

Gun owners need to ditch those shills, and then come up with some reasonable solutions ourselves to gun violence, or the rest of society will continue to come up with solutions for us.

Stop whining about them doing it, and start doing it yourself.

Fish on...

Todd

Yeah, what Todd said. 1639 is poorly written, will save very few lives, if any, but it is emotionally appealing. I think that's what gave it the win. Now I'm gonna' have to figure out how to store my guns legally.

Why? This initiative changes nothing. Specifically says right in there: "Nothing in this section mandates how or where a firearm must
be stored." Have a lock on your front door? Gee it was secure, gee there must have been an unlawful entry. No trigger lock, gee they must have picked it.