OK, round 1:

“The perfect God is also the perfect environmentalist. Look at all the cool stuff he made!”


I couldn’t agree more 


“Perhaps he didn't. Perhaps some people took a good and decent man and turned him into the Son of God. Maybe the idea to control simple people led others to expand upon the idea. “

The evidence shows that he believed in his own divinity. This is covered in great detail by CS Lewis and Josh McDowell (see the Lord, Liar, or Lunatic discussion…).

Also, regarding the “simple people” idea, the fact of the matter is, followers of Christ from day 1 through present times have ranged from scholars to uneducated peasants\poor people. Working class to the wealthy. Doctors, scientists, teachers, Presidents, high IQ, low IQ, etc etc. You won’t find a ‘box’ to stereotype all\most Christians in….


“When there is a price charged, it's a condition. I never said ANYTHING about how God wants people to live their lives free of sin, so why try to claim that's what I said? READ IT AGAIN! WHAT PART OF UNCONDITIONAL LOVE DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND?”

OK, you got me there. There was\is a price. That price however has been PAID IN FULL via Christ’s death on the cross.


“A perfect God would NOT put a price on salvation, because there isn't anyone that needs saving in the first place. It's a long running hoax as far as I am concerned and only the gullible fall for the "doctine" created by men to control others.”

So you know for sure what a ‘perfect God’ would do? I respect your opinion, but that’s really all it is… Of course you don’t see the need for a Savior because you don’t see your own sin and the sin of others (well, it seems you do like to point to it in others from time to time ). Again, the idea that “only the gullible” can be the followers of Christ is a silly argument. Sure, there are lots of gullible people who become Christians. But clearly not all Christians are gullible…

As for “controlling others”, that also doesn’t ad up. Yes, MANY have and still do abuse Christianity (as well as other religions, politics, etc, etc) and use it for their own agendas. But most churches I’ve attended have no other agenda beyond serving others in the community\world (World Vision, Salvation Army, etc) and sharing the Gospel with others along the way.

In fact, those who are truly ‘religious’ for the sake of power, greed, control, money, etc have hated the message of Christ since he began sharing it to today (that’s why some churches steer away from actually reading\teaching from the Bible – but choose to approach things in a ‘topical’ manner where they can avoid hard questions and steer people away from the actual message in scripture. By setting people free from religious entrapments, regulations, obligations, etc, Jesus was directly threatening the political, social, cultural, and ‘religious’ status quo and that lead to his crucifixion…