I've fished spoons for last 7-8 years and have experienced most of what has been said above. I use yelow 20# power pro with 15# flourocarbon-Pen-Tac gold-1/2 and !/2- or copper in 2/3 for heavy and 2/5 oz for lighter water. Whatever it takes to get it to the bottom-but not banging. It is a fine line between being in the penthouse and the shiat house! On the rivers I fish, if you aren't loseing gear-you probably aren't in the penthouse. The one thing I haven't heard said-is that the take will be very suttle-it feels like a leaf-when the wobble stops-set the hook. I released 13 Kings in Oct-2over 20-1 over 30- and 1 over 40- all chrome, all in the mouth, and all after a very soft take. I too would like to see RVR FSHR make a 2/3 oz spoon.