He is pretty FLY for a white guy hahaha.

It stayed there for an unusually long time. I guess it knows a pile of schit when it sees one.

And that was just the fly that got lost. Here's the rest of the swarm on his ass.

I felt that he dripped with insincerity more than most . And both used evasion tactics. Harris less so .

Super fly! I think he has covid eye.

They were both evasive with answering questions. I thought Pence appeared far more sincere than Harris. Kamala is a fake. She was smug and indignant when she had her ass called out. People say Pence is worse than Trump...but Kamala Harris is 1000x worse than Joe Biden or almost anyone for that matter.

True but Pence was far more evasive. I'm not saying I like ANY of the fukkers btw.

True, he was waaay better than trump, but still far from honest or trustworthy.

Women really like it when you talk over them.
That guy looks sick to me, he may have the Trump Flu.

Pence looked like he was stoned with blood coming out of his eyes. Kamala struck me as more honest than Pence on every subject especially the poor economy and trying to compare covid to H1N1. The current administration raised my income taxes and my income is less than $400K per year. Kamala should have checked his lack of facts but she held back.

In the beginning, well before the DNC chose Biden I had thought that Harris was the obvious choice but she was ran off reasonably quickly. It's too bad she outshined Biden significantly.

Pence was cool calm and collected and in honesty a well qualified speaker. No doubt he will help Trump rebound in the polls.

I'm looking forward to the 2nd presidential debate, I'm hoping to hear more about gun laws and the 2nd amendment.

Keith

No votes were changed last night.

That fly cracked me up. C'mon dude - don't you know when a fly is crawling around on your head? And c'mon fly - wasn't there a pile of sh!t not on TV that you could have landed on instead?

When did Kamala outshine Biden? I remember her going off on Biden at one of the primary debates but Biden won because he is more moderate. Listened to the same ole tax cut BS from Pence. Trump's so called tax cut resulted in an increase in the national debt. Trump and Pence are not fiscally conservative. People are already voting and most have already made up their minds. VP debates usually have little or no bearing on the election. Kamala held back as all she needed was a draw.

Pence calmly and smoothly lied every other sentence...Harris should have called him on it a lot more.

Harris didn't look as smooth or as prepared as I expected her to be.

Trump said this morning...via Twitter, shockingly...that if the next debate is virtual he won't participate in it.

It will be virtual, and he doesn't want to be embarrassed again. He has to do something to crawl out of the gutter in the polls, no one will care about last night's debate, and with Trump being a sick super-spreader and half of his Administration falling ill, too, he's not exactly instilling confidence in anyone but his Cult...who, as noted, don't care about anything he does or does not do.

Fish on...

Todd

Oh, the guy trailing by double digits doesn't want to debate?

Ok. Bye, then.

There's a pattern that's developed over 4 years, it's wishy-washy in his ways of saying/doing.

Trump will debate, no question asked... The guy wants nothing more than to redeem himself.

Keith

Almost....I just don't think that "redeeming himself" is it.

He is just an narcissistic attention whore, in another debate he'll stand up and and bluster and fuss and complain about those that are mean to him, he won't give any better insight into to his plans, policies or ability to lead the country, he'll stutter I..I..I..I..me..me..me and he'll ramble and not make a lick of sense, hopefully Biden can hold himself together better and push trump all the way over the edge this time.
...and that will be a fun watch.

That's the most surprising thing about trump. He tries to act all tough but for the past 4 years all he does is whine and complain like a whiny bitch.

Not much a defined plan discussed by either party. It's all a bunch of bull [Bleeeeep!] politics. Neither party impresses imho.

Keith

+1. Just a bunch of blow hard rhetoric at this point. Neither party will do what really needs to be done.

o Trump does not want to debate anymore. Do you remember when the debates were going to be the event that would propel Trump to victory? How did that work out? Trump has no one to blame but himself. That incredibly bad performance in the 1st debate was all about trying to get Biden to stutter and then because of his cavalier attitude towards Covid he got sick. As usual, he is a victim (snowflake), as so very often is the case, he is a victim of his own tenuous grasp on reality.

Q. " Will you stop fracking"
A. No we won't

Go back a few months to their presidential candidate run and each candidate Biden/Harris wanted to end Fracking.. How in the [Bleeeeep!] can you go on camera and say one thing then turn around when you've received the nomination and switch?

They're all liars!

Keith

Because low oil prices does away with fracking, why take a position you don't have to.

Still don't explain giving two different answers to one question over a short period of time..

Just admit it Illahee, Democratic candidates are liars too...

Keith

This.

Not too sure why she didn't just say that.

OTOH - not like either one them would answer a question.

Both were just kiss-asses to their bosses.

Both were pathetic. They both suck and will suck.

Guess I just answered my own question from above.

If it were anyone else other than the Fat Cheeto in office now, no way would I be voting for Biden.

The Fat Cheeto *is* that bad. He's gotta go at whatever expense that may be. It *will* be a better 4 years than if Fat Cheeto remains in office. Guaran-fvcking-teed.

This is a classic case of the lesser of the two evils. Anyone who can continue to support Donny Chee-toe has to have something seriously wrong with them. I don't care for Biden,but man,the Orangutang is a disgrace. He HAS to go.

He ran the country like he ran his businesses, right into the ground.
Congratulations, mission accomplished.

That's pure [Bleeeeep!] and you know it..

Covid is a world wide thing, not just the US of [Bleeeeep!] A..... The Democratic debates hang their hats on 210,000 dead and growing. Who knows how many would have died if it were a democratic leadership or even a different Republican president. People died and 1 is too many, but we can only speculate what any other administration would have done differently. Lord have mercy had they shut the entire economy down for 7 months. It turned all partisan from both sides...

Pre-covid this country was rocking and rolling and setting records in segments for that matter.....

But hell if you were president, what would you have done different? Just follow the democratic leadership?

Keith

Pence has learned from Trump how to lie and blame others for his problems as the leader of the Covid task force. Pence started to say what if last night. If Harris didn't want to sound bitchy she should have called him out. It's a fact that 210,000 Americans have died from COVID within a margin of error on both sides of the curve. As a prosecutor you should know that facts carry more weight than speculation. The Trump administration reminds me of the Russian new agency TASS putting out lies and misinformation.

Pence had to kill it, and he didn't. He sat there with a fly on his head and didn't gain anywhere near the traction he needed to to make up for Fatso's horrible performance.

Pence is a scumbag, anyhow. He got caught using campaign funds to pay his mortgage back in the day - which is probably why Trump picked him. Looks nice, lies like a fvcker.

I wish flies could [Bleeeeep!] like seagulls or pigeons.
SF

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Are you ok? Did you hit your head? How many fingers am I holding up? Please name the only 3 pro teams that have come back from 3-1 deficits in a best of 7 series TWICE in the same playoff year.

Yes. No. Beats me. I am not good at sports stats.

Covid is a world wide thing, not just the US of [Bleeeeep!] A..... The Democratic debates hang their hats on 210,000 dead and growing. Who knows how many would have died if it were a democratic leadership or even a different Republican president. People died and 1 is too many, but we can only speculate what any other administration would have done differently. Lord have mercy had they shut the entire economy down for 7 months. It turned all partisan from both sides...
You are correct, it is a world wide thing so let's look at how the rest of the world has done. Out of the 216 Countries that are tracked, the USA is the 10th worst in the world when measured as death rate per million. That is a really compelling argument that the USA has really screwed up their response and Trump is the leader. Pretty open and shut in my opinion.

Both sides turned partisan?

No phuckin schit man. This shouldn’t come as a surprise to you.

I have some news that may shock you... your Democratic Party is just as phucked up as the Republicans... and arguably worse in many ways.

No.

This is a lie, dressed up as opinion.

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Dr. Fauci or Dr. Seuss, ya they are both the same.
You know how I know this?
The My Pillow guy told me.
We are going to miss your moronic babble around here Steamer.

Bringing “light” to the darkside...

True story......Illaheshe and Toff are the biggest party hacks known to the DS. Frank is gone....

The funny thing is how I get labeled a Trump supporter when I’ve denounced him and the Republican Party several times. Illashee and Toff both claim to be moderate Democrats but never condemn the extremists who have hijacked their political party.

Who is the moderate here?

This is also true.

3 and a half.