Remember when Jake said he got the two shots so this will all be over? Remember when Todd used his nephew to get the vaccine early? Remember the old vaccination thread? Pepperidge farms remembers.

How did that work out for you? Did you vax tards end covid yet?

I remember. That asshole ondarvr would still be complaining lol.

Is shillster still alive?


-Steamy

How many darksiders will come back and admit they were wrong about the vaccines? I bet most of them continue to dig their heals in and double down believing if they are double vaxxed and quad boosted that they will stop the spread. Even the CDC Director Rochelle Walensky said the vaccines aren’t effective in preventing transmission.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical...more/ar-AASDndg


-Steamy

Biden has done such a fantastic job of “cleaning up”! I mean... making it all worse. Lol.




Yeah. Here we are today. It’s so much better now that Trump is gone!!! And it’s ALL Trumps fault!!! Lol




We are over 800,000 dead, but Rochelle Walensky just spoke about how the figure will be different as they make the distinction of dying with covid vs from covid. Care to change your incorrect prediction?




It’s still those morons who won’t wear a mask and governors who kept states open. No mention of how masks or the vaccines do nothing to stop transmission. Care to change your thoughts on this too, Toff?


-Steamy

Is the Shillster still alive or did he die from the vaxxx boosters?


Streamer

Who is the "Shillster?"

Illahee

May he RIP. I hope it was peacefully and due to natural causes and not from all those boosters.



Streamer

Will anyone proudly admit to receiving their 2024-2025 Covid Booster? I will take any silence as assumption that you did not take it. For those that did, what is your reasoning at this point?


Streamer

Got Covid, RSV, and influenza. At my age, and with some issues, I don't want any sort of respiratory ailment. Last 5 or six years of reasonable distancing, vaccinations, and masks have kept me healthier than previously. I'll take that.

CM,


To steel man your point, covid, RSV and influence vaccines are most justified for elderly populations with severe health risks. In these situations, the risk presented with those vaccines may be outweighed by any type of benefit that could be offered. I say that knowing that there is some POSSIBLE benefit in terms of reduced severity of symptoms, but it doesn’t appear that this has actually been proven yet. I’ll happily take a study showing this if someone can find one and prove it… Hint hint Salmo!

Social distancing (not the arbitrary 6 foot rule) does work along with good hygiene. Don’t touch your face, wash your hands, etc. I think covid has reminded us all to be more mindful of this.


Streamer

I have taken it and was happy to do so. Here's a concept, you won't tell me what I do with my body and health and I won't tell you what to do with yours.

In September I got my annual flu shot, or vaccine, along with this year's covid vaccine. I've had all the covid shots and boosters as they came along. Haven't had the flu or covid, although for the past week I've had my first common cold in years.

As for citations, there are many, but I don't feel like looking them all up for Streamer. Here's one from the New England Journal of Medicine that concluded 95% effectiveness:
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2034577

That UK thing was debunked.

https://www.reuters.com/article/fact-che...-idUSL2N2VK15E/

I guess you could say that I base my decisions on assumptions. I assume that PhDs in epidemiology and other health sciences are better sources of information and recommendation than wing nut conspiracy theorists. Vaccination greatly decreases the severity of COVID and the mortality rate.

www.cdc.gov
COVID-19 Incidence and Death Rates Among Unvaccinated ...
This report describes higher protection against COVID-19 infection and death among people who received an updated booster than people who received a monovalent booster.
www.cdc.gov www.cdc.gov

virologyj.biomedcentral.com
Epidemiology, clinical features and outcomes of hospitalized patients with COVID-19 by vaccination status: a multicenter historical cohort study - Virology Journal
Introduction COVID-19 disease resulted in over six million deaths worldwide. Although vaccines against SARS-CoV-2 demonstrated efficacy, breakthrough infections became increasingly common. There is still a lack of data regarding the severity and outcomes of COVID-19 among vaccinated compared to...
virologyj.biomedcentral.com virologyj.biomedcentral.com

And in Washington:
https://doh.wa.gov/sites/default/files/2022-02/421-010-CasesInNotFullyVaccinated.pdf

A confounding factor over the last several years has been the different variants that have arisen. Updated vaccines are still effective, but perhaps less so with newer variants, but the upshot is still the risk of severe COVID and death are much lower when vaccinated:

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2402779

Another issue is the death rate has plummeted over the last several years as there are now some effective treatments (antiviral such as Paxlovid and Lagevrio) and the mortality rates if the latest variants may be less.

ourworldindata.org
United States: COVID-19 weekly death rate by vaccination status
Death rates are calculated as the number of deaths in each group, divided by the total number of people in this group. This is given per 100,000 people.
ourworldindata.org ourworldindata.org

Reduction in the infection fatality rate of Omicron variant compared with previous variants in South Africa - PMC
The SARS-CoV-2 Omicron (B.1.1.529) variant has caused global concern. Previous studies have shown that the variant has enhanced immune evasion ability and transmissibility and reduced severity. In this study, we developed a mathematical model with ...
pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Fatality Rates After Infection With the Omicron Variant (B.1.1.529): How Deadly has it been? A Systematic Review and Meta-Analysis - PMC
Since late 2019, the global community has been gripped by the uncertainty surrounding the SARS-CoV-2 pandemic. In November 2021, the emergence of the Omicron variant in South Africa added a new dimension. This study aims to assess the disease’s ...
pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

I agree100%. So why was the vaxxx a mandate then? My body my choice, right?


Streamer

Fair point Streamer, there was a mandate for some (I think mainly Govt and Hospital workers). I would have been fine with no mandate as long as those who did not get the vaccine self isolated. Remember, hindsight is very clear, when you are in the midst of a sh*tstorm, vision is clouded!

Eddie,


It wasn’t just hospitals, but all government agencies and many other private employers that are government contracted. I worked in a hospital and was terminated for not getting the vax. There was outright refusal to even discuss other strategies or accommodations. It was either get the jab or lose your job.

I did receive a settlement over this, but maybe we learn moving forward that government shouldn’t mandate much of anything, especially a brand new, untested and unsafe vaccine.


Streamer

Eddie,

The vaccine mandate covered all government workers, all government contractors, all health care employees and all employees of a private organization of 100 people or more. This was the OSHA mandate, look it up.

FP,

Thanks for the addition. I did forget to add that the mandate also applied to employers with over 100 employees or more.

Just continues to prove the point.



Streamer