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#113354 - 05/08/01 01:47 AM Fishing rods and reels
Rapp10 Offline
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Registered: 05/07/01
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Loc: Ephrata, WA
I was wondering if you guys thought the extra money for a G Loomis rod and a Shimano Reel was worth it?

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#113355 - 05/08/01 02:20 AM Re: Fishing rods and reels
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If you can afford it.

Ive run loomis and lami and have nothing bad to say about either.

As far as reels go, the best you can afford is what I would buy. Your reel can never be to good. I have both ambu's and shimanos. Abu's have there place but for a drift rod Id go shimano. I love my calcutta.

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#113356 - 05/08/01 03:31 AM Re: Fishing rods and reels
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No right answer to that Q. Only opinions. My $0.02 worth. ... At a point around $125 for a rod, the extra dollars spent have a very rapid decline in value returned per dollar spent; the higher into the stratosphere the less return on the dollar. Obvious examples are GLoomis's $300 to $400 IMX and Lamiglass' $450 Titanium 'enhanced' rod. They are less substantive than they are marketing. If you spent half the amount of the aforementioned rods and bought a Lami Esprite, All-Star Elite, or Loomy GL2 (for examples) you most likely can feel and catch as many fish with it! And not have to worry about that 'sickening' first scratch as much smile . Just use them comfortably and catch just as many fish. Now that applies to driftfishing and backbouncing where reasonabley good sensativity is an important factor. For most other methods such as pulling plugs, using spinners/spoons, and floatfishing I think it's ... how should I put this ... not a great use of money at all to spend more than on a regular Lami, All-Star, GL2, or even on such a value quality rod as the Berkley 'Buzz Ramsey' IM7 (only $80!). There are custom rod makers that can save you money too. ... I would say essentially the same for reels over $125. We have had this same thread debate before, and I could be wrong; for some people. Opinions?

RT

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#113357 - 05/08/01 04:29 AM Re: Fishing rods and reels
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My 02 cents worth, I am the allstar rep, so take it with a grain of salt. I am just going to state a few facts and my personal experiences. I use to be a Loomis guy until I started working for allstar, and before Loomis sold to shimano.
The allstar rods are a great value, you get so much more than youpay for. They are made of 43 million modulous graphite, made in the USA, and have a life time warranty. But they cost about a fraction of a GL-3 and have a higher modulous graphite than they do.
For instance the 1141 is 129.00 retail, a 1025 is 109.95 retail and the 1263 is 129.95
so don't be afraid to try something new, and you might be pleasantly suprised.
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#113358 - 05/08/01 08:59 AM Re: Fishing rods and reels
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Superfly, Allstar rods maybe great rods at a good price, but you rarely get more than you pay for. sometimes you can pay too much.
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#113359 - 05/08/01 09:06 AM Re: Fishing rods and reels
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Registered: 03/15/99
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I have two Shimano Stradic 4000's. One is on a Lamiglas 500, the other on a Cabelas 10 ft C44X, Fish Eagle III, which they no longer carry. My father in-law uses the Sustain 4000 with the Cabelas XML rated at 44 million modulus. Cabelas doesn't carry the XML steelhead rods anymore, except for the blanks/kits. They have the Fish Eagle II but it is a step down and is rated at 38 million modulus. Cabelas says the XML is made by America's premier rod manufacturer (Is this G-Loomis?) I want to get the XML and have it built or build it myself and get another Stradic. Need to counter balance the butt with the 10 ft rods. I'm not sure how the GL2, GL3, or IMX compare in modulus and strain rate. I was also looking at the Lami Certified Pro or 1000 but don't know how these compare. Would also like to check out the rods Aerofly is refering. confused
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#113360 - 05/08/01 10:47 AM Re: Fishing rods and reels
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Jerry Garcia, I think the last part of your of your statement was correct, sometimes you can pay too much. I have 4 Gl3s, 3 of them the rod twists around in the handle. 2 of them the ceramic eyes have poped out. I have 5 allstar rods and I will put them up against the loomis any day. They are catching on pretty fast around here. All you have to do is hand them the allstar rod and let them try it out and they sell themselves. The guys that are buying them are loomis users.
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#113361 - 05/08/01 11:18 AM Re: Fishing rods and reels
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Registered: 02/09/00
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Loc: Pasco, WA
I agree with RT on his rod theory. Once you go above a GL3 or Certified Pro, the little improvement in sensitivity for the extreme rise in cost doesn't add up. I am interested in trying either an Allstar or Rainshadow rod one of these days. For reels, however, I will disagree with the $125 benchmark. By far, the best reel I have ever used is the Shimano Chronarch SuperFree. WOW!! I will be selling a couple of Calcutta's soon to move my other setup's up to the SF. For the money, a very good reel can be had for less than $125. An awful lot of guys on this board run the Shimano Curado. Good reel, great line capacity, but something about it just doesn't do it for me.

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#113362 - 05/08/01 11:37 AM Re: Fishing rods and reels
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Registered: 03/05/01
Posts: 444
Loc: Olympia....beeyotch
I am very familiar with All-Star rods from back in the day. I've owned between 10-12 of them and loved them. Of course, someone else loved them more than me because I had my supply stolen 3 different times. rolleyes So, I'm no rep. for them, but I like the rods as you can see I've spent more than $ 1K on them.

Actually, I've owned several reels that were too much reel, and yes, they are still producing better and better reels.

Shimano Calais = 11 ball bearings only about $400 Line capacity kinda sucks, but if they make a larger model, I'd fork it out in a second to get one.

Abu Garcia Eon and Morrum reels = I hear these are exceptional reels from the people I've talked to and the info I found out on them.

Calcuttas are sweeeeet.
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#113363 - 05/08/01 12:11 PM Re: Fishing rods and reels
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I've owned several Lami's and few series 1# Berkley (great rod for the price)
But after having to replace a few last year I purchased a Gl-3 1143# ....I don't use the others anymore...well exept for my Fenwick float rod.It's no contest IMHO
as far as reels go I love my Calcutta and my new Corado.If I could afford it I'd be using the Calcutta Te-GT....sweeeet......Os

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#113364 - 05/08/01 12:54 PM Re: Fishing rods and reels
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Loc: Coos Bay, OR
I have a great job, I get to fish any rod I want.. three months ago I was a die hard Loomis man.. nothing but! However, the last few months we have been building blanks made by Rainshadow and I am a changed man.. They look like an IMX and feel like a GL3 for 1/2 the price.. No doubt, the best rod for the money.....
As for reels, Shimano Chronarchs are the best...... no questions asked.

Thanks for letting me play...

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#113365 - 05/08/01 08:18 PM Re: Fishing rods and reels
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Registered: 03/30/01
Posts: 444
Loc: Blyn, WA
Question...

Have all you guys that swear by your Shimano's tried any Penn Internationals? I bought a 965 a couple of years back, and I love that reel... how do you think they compare? I've heard people say that the Calcuttas have smoother drags, but the Penns have stronger drags and last longer... I'd like to get another reel but don't neccessarily want to fork out $165...

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#113366 - 05/08/01 08:23 PM Re: Fishing rods and reels
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Loc: Clarkston Wa
My turn to play
I have a custom built Loomis Gl2 1082 (Thanks to TH) and its equiped with a shimano curado and it is a dream set up I can fish summer and winter fish with this set up and it only costs about $350 total

TH makes one hell of a nice rod. laugh
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#113367 - 05/08/01 09:18 PM Re: Fishing rods and reels
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I just ordered a Okuma Avenger 2000. Was going to get a Stradic but the Okuma felt twice as smooth and was only $45, verses $130. The Okuma has 7 ball berrings and comes with an extra spool. The guy I bought it from sells everything and says the Okuma is the best for the money. I know some guys that use Okumas and they say they will never go back to Shimano spinning reels.

Anybody out there use Okuma spinning reels? What do you think?

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#113368 - 05/08/01 09:52 PM Re: Fishing rods and reels
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Registered: 04/15/01
Posts: 334
Loc: SW Washington
I fish Loomis rods. All rods I have custom built. I shop around for blanks and get discontinues and sometimes seconds and build great rods.Get blanks from D&E or e-bay sometimes. Love all of my Loomis's favorite has to be my HS1021 IM6, been fishing this rod for at least 10 years. Great drift rod for springers, light tip and good backbone. Getting ready to build a couple more for pulling plugs. I think rods are all personal preferance. I know guys who right now are swearing by the north river rods, good rod for the price. As far as reals goes I swear by my Abu's have quite a few and love the old 6001's, the new ones are all right. My old shimano's I lie pretty good to, hate the corsair I have though it is a 401 and dont like it at all.

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#113369 - 05/08/01 10:24 PM Re: Fishing rods and reels
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Registered: 11/30/99
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Loc: A coastal river with fish
Ive fished with loomis Gl3s for a while now and I think there great, mine are custom built (thanks to TH custom rods) he builds a quality rod, I wont buy 1 of these over the counter because I dont think the quality is still there, TH has also built me a rainshadow , and Im very excited about this one, especially when the rod builder is very sold on it. As for reels Ive had shimano reels they are very good a little spendy I also have an abu morrum great reel a little heavy and spendy, My favorite all around reel is an abu ultra cast 6500, this reel is incredible great casting, and awsome retreive power, and thats what you want in a reel, and its about 100.00$$ alot cheaper than a calcutta. and pound for pound just as strong I think. cool
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#113370 - 05/08/01 11:19 PM Re: Fishing rods and reels
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Registered: 02/26/01
Posts: 28
Loc: Chilliwak, BC
In my op. the best FLOAT fishing setup around is a Sage 3106 that I had built for Silex centerpin. The rod bends into the cork and is soft enougth to load the Silex up. No drift beats the drift that a centerpin offers.

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#113371 - 05/09/01 12:06 AM Re: Fishing rods and reels
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Registered: 12/14/99
Posts: 788
Loc: Tacoma WA
I myself believe in the "use what you believe in" scenerio. I've owned lots of rods over ther years (and ask Os I still have quite a few) and have some favorites.

I have owned just about everything at one time or another (except Allstar and the "cheap" brands like silstar and such). I have a couple Loomis's and a few Lami's. But I truly love my old Fenwicks'. My favorite is my old F85C with a 5001c on it. I also swear more by the old Abu's over the new ones. I feel they were better made and are much more durable. But the old fen's have a good feel and great action. Just they're heavier. I still use them. They're great rods and I've caught a lot of fish with it. Then there's my Kunnan's. Love them to death and will cry when I snap my last one. But I truly feel that to a point you get what you pay for. I agree with RT that once you hit a certain point you're paying way too much for not much more.

Just my .02
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#113372 - 05/09/01 01:00 AM Re: Fishing rods and reels
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Registered: 11/03/99
Posts: 502
Loc: Albany OR
Now back to the original question. Yes, Its worth spending money on the good stuff. Especially when it comes to reels. Nothing can ruin a day faster than some 30 dollar piece a crap reel breakin on you. My favorite reel is a Shiano Calcutta. I have 2 and I love them. The Curados are not all that great. They just dont hold up.
Now for rods. I think components and assembly or more important than what the blank is made of. Even though I mainly fish with Loomis, I feel the Lami G-1000 series is the best value. I havent seen the All Star rods yet so I cant say anything about them.

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#113373 - 05/09/01 01:11 AM Re: Fishing rods and reels
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Stelhead69, I know what you mean about the old kunann's I broke my last one last year and it was a sad day for me and all my fishing partners. It wasnt used for salmon or steelhead anymore but it sure did have some great days when I was young and couldnt afford a better rod. I wish I could still get a few of them, great low cost rod.
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