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#148392 - 04/08/02 01:15 AM Another biology question...
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I always thought jacks were sexually immature fish...do they spawn?

Don't some jacks enter the river prior to sexual maturity and then return to the salt?
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#148393 - 04/08/02 01:22 AM Re: Another biology question...
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I believe that there are two ways to look at it...

I think that a jack, biologically speaking, is a fish (mainly salmon) that return earlier than is normal. For a king, that would be after a year or two instead of three to five years. For a coho, that would be one salt fish rather than a two to four salt. I'm also pretty sure that they are sexually mature, just young.

The other, of course, is the legal definition, which is based on size, i.e., coho under 20 inches, etc.

I don't think that there are any that return early, don't spawn, and return to the salt.

Fish on...

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#148394 - 04/08/02 01:42 AM Re: Another biology question...
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Are these fish considered sexually mature?

Do they spawn successfully?
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#148395 - 04/08/02 01:48 AM Re: Another biology question...
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Yes, and yes, though their success is limited by the fact that they are mostly (completely?) bucks, and most adult hens will choose a bigger buck if they are available.

Fish on...

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#148396 - 04/08/02 01:51 AM Re: Another biology question...
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So in all reality they are: Small fish.

Thanks for straightening me out on that one...
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#148397 - 04/08/02 03:14 AM Re: Another biology question...
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Yep laugh small fish. But important too. laugh

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#148398 - 04/08/02 10:08 AM Re: Another biology question...
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Stlhdh2o -
The guys are right. For salmon jacks are mature males that have returned at an younger age than normal for the species. They are capable of spawning and do contribute to the gene pool of the population. Salmon jacks are typically found in greater abundance in rivers than normal because marine water fisheries (sport and commerical) catch the larger maturing adult fish and not the jacks.

The situation with the anadromous trout (steelhead, cutthroat and Dolly Varden/bull trout) is a little different. With steelhead true jacks are found; returning after just one summer of feeding. Rarely a early maturing steelhead females - Jills are found. In South Oregon and Northern California steelhead half pounders are found. These are immature fish that return to the river, spend the late fall, winter in freshwater and then return to the ocean without spawning to return later. Steelhead with this life-history are rarely found in Washington waters.

With the cutthroat and Dolly Varden/bull trout typically behave like half pounders and spend that first winter after smolting back in freshwater as non-spawning fish - sometimes called subadults. With these fish there are lots of exceptions to the "rules".

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#148399 - 04/08/02 04:43 PM Re: Another biology question...
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Thanks Smalma -

Realized I was getting my information sets confused...Thanks
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