#155235 - 07/16/02 02:28 PM
Re: 100,000 SOKEYE THRU LOCKS IN LAST 6 DAYS
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River Nutrients
Registered: 05/06/01
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Loc: Nisqually
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I can understand your excitement, but don't hold your breath. Compare the recent numbers with the numbers from two years ago when a season was allowed.
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#155236 - 07/16/02 02:37 PM
Re: 100,000 SOKEYE THRU LOCKS IN LAST 6 DAYS
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River Nutrients
Registered: 10/04/01
Posts: 3563
Loc: Gold Bar
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First time I ever fished for those the guys at Outdoor Emporium recommended 20 lb test with 15 lb test leader. Trolling a flasher with 18 inches of leader and a red hook. They got the flasher and the red hook right, we all limited. But these fish fight like a bunch of weeds on the end of your line. Next time I will take my trout rod and troll for them with around 10 lb main line and 6 lb test leader. At least that way they maybe they will fight a little.
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#155237 - 07/16/02 03:08 PM
Re: 100,000 SOKEYE THRU LOCKS IN LAST 6 DAYS
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The Chosen One
Registered: 02/09/00
Posts: 13943
Loc: Tuleville
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Wow. 27,000 fish were counted yesterday. Yeah, I'd say the run was a little late, as it usually peaks around the 4th. Another 4 days of 27,000 fish per day and I can guarantee a fishery by Saturday! Don't think that's realistic though. I can see another 100,000 fish by the time the run ends, though. Escapement might be met, but I doubt we'll get the many thousands surplus needed for a 1 or 2 day fishery. In either case, are you ready to go fish on a whim's notice, Cigar?
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#155238 - 07/16/02 03:48 PM
Re: 100,000 SOKEYE THRU LOCKS IN LAST 6 DAYS
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Spawner
Registered: 04/30/99
Posts: 526
Loc: Lake Forest Dark, Wa
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I went down to the fish Locks last night to go view the fish through the window...just hordes and hordes of sockeye coming through! They were just jumping everywhere between the railroad bridge downstream on up to the fish ladder. Saw lots of fish with seal bite scars or fresh wounds, at least 30% of them were marked up. One other observation that I made is that the fish seemed to be smaller than they usually are with the average weight about 3-4 pounds. A few 6-7 pounders thrown into the mix though, that got my heart pumpin. I noticed that the guys who work down there have a couple of salmon sport nets laying around...hmmm Maybe at late night sockeye bbq is one of the perks :p . With the total of 245,000 fish so far the escapement mark of 350K should easily be met. Unless there are anymore "ceremonial fisheries" by certain individuals . BD
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#155239 - 07/16/02 04:24 PM
Re: 100,000 SOKEYE THRU LOCKS IN LAST 6 DAYS
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River Nutrients
Registered: 05/06/01
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Could be a late-peaking-run this year. The bulk of the run seems to be coming in now when it should be right around the beginning of July. Hmmmmm...... If there is a fishery, it will be a one or two day fiasco.
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#155243 - 07/17/02 02:55 AM
Re: 100,000 SOKEYE THRU LOCKS IN LAST 6 DAYS
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The Tide changed
Registered: 08/31/00
Posts: 7083
Loc: Everett
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I can beleive the counts you are all reporting. We took out at Shilshole on Saturday afternoon, and the Sockeye were swarming around the mouth of the breakwater on the north end by the launch. While we were pulling into the guest moorage area I hopped on the bow to look down and see dozens of fish zipping all over.
I does seem as if the Salmon are returning a little on the late side this year. Anyone know of any science or have any assumptions on what may cause a late return for a migratory fish like Salmon?? Cold it be weather related or due to foodfish availability?
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#155244 - 07/17/02 09:32 AM
Re: 100,000 SOKEYE THRU LOCKS IN LAST 6 DAYS
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River Nutrients
Registered: 10/04/01
Posts: 3563
Loc: Gold Bar
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Strike Zone I only did the Lake Washington sockeye thing once. It was back in either 94 or 96 can’t quite remember. There were 8 of us on a boat and we got our limit of 16 fish. All were between 3-5 pounds. Do not know the average size of these fish but those are what we caught. All were caught in around 60 feet of water and after a while we got tired of bringing in the down riggers so we just kept on trolling at a reduced speed as we played the fish into the boat. This also helped give the impression of a little more fight because the ones we hooked up on were slugs. Maybe we just hooked up on some wimpy fish that day but I was not impressed. Sure wish I would have gotten some of those ones you did that were breaking off your line and setups. Any fish that can break off 20-30 lb ultra green is a worthy opponent. I will have to go give it another try on the next opener and see if I can get one of those line rippers.
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#155246 - 07/17/02 12:42 PM
Re: 100,000 SOKEYE THRU LOCKS IN LAST 6 DAYS
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River Nutrients
Registered: 03/07/00
Posts: 2955
Loc: Lynnwood, WA
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STRIKEZONE,
I've never caught a sockeye that had teeth large or sharp enough to cut a 30lb. leader. (including hudreds of large AK reds) They are plankton feeders, and have soft mouths. I'm not disputing your experience, just relating mine. As far as the fight, in my experience, when the surface water on the lake is in the 70 degree range, the fish do just roll over once they near the surface. The initial fight down in the colder water (I usually fish the 70ft. depth) is usually pretty good. I use 12# mainline, light action steelhead rod, small 00 chrome dodger, and 8 to 10" of 25# leader to a 1/0 red hook. The heavier leader is more to impart a good motion on the hook than to withstand the teeth.
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#155249 - 07/17/02 05:41 PM
Re: 100,000 SOKEYE THRU LOCKS IN LAST 6 DAYS
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River Nutrients
Registered: 05/06/01
Posts: 2959
Loc: Nisqually
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You can check here for the latest Sockeye counts. It does not look good so far.
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