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#156346 - 08/01/02 04:24 PM help tying a snell knot with two hooks
troller Offline
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Registered: 07/11/02
Posts: 608
Loc: Renton , WA
I was fishing this last weekend we had a three day fishery for sockeye salmon in lake washington. Problem was the first day I lost a few hooks on the rigs I tied. It was allways the bottom hook that I tied on first that broke. I was using 25 pound test that was new so a 6 pound salmon should not have broken the line. The second day I retied all to 50 pound test and did not have a problem and caught all 7 bites we had. I must be doing something wrong here is what I did. First I tied the bottom hook on using a snell knot I ran the hook thru the eye then made a loop with the short loose end at the bottom of the hook wrapped 10 times then pulled the short end to take up the slack. Now on the second hook the one higher up on the line I ran the line up thru the eye and made a loop of all the line with the first hook just below this hook and wraped 10 times then pulled up the slack line thru the top. At looking at the setup afterwards it appears that the line to the bottom hook is pulled across the bottom loop of the top hook and breaking at that point. When tying this should I have made my slack line on the first hook longer so that I could use it to tie another hook to it using a snell. Also if anyone can tell me how to tie a sliding top hook that would be great as that is what I wanted to do in the first place but when I tied the snell knot on it and trimmed the ends and applied some pressure it would just unravel and slide down to the first hook.

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#156347 - 08/01/02 04:45 PM Re: help tying a snell knot with two hooks
StorminN Offline
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Registered: 03/30/01
Posts: 444
Loc: Blyn, WA
Hey Troller,

Check out the fishing tips section of this site, and tie your leaders with the bumper knot shown here .

Once you've tied one hook on, slide your other hook down the line to the place where you want it to live, and tie your second knot the same way.

Forget about tying sliding rigs, you don't want them... all that happens when you use them is that you'll eventually hook a fish with the top hook, it will slide down and break off the bottom hook, both hooks will come off, and your fish will get away. Stay away from slip ties.

-N.
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#156348 - 08/01/02 06:29 PM Re: help tying a snell knot with two hooks
GutZ Offline
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Registered: 02/08/00
Posts: 2917
Loc: Bellevue
That egg bumber knot is really easy with that 50 pound leader wink . I could barely get the line back through the eye the second time. Never in my wildest dreams did I imagine I would ever tie such a thing.
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#156349 - 08/01/02 06:57 PM Re: help tying a snell knot with two hooks
Fishslayer75 Offline
Returning Adult

Registered: 11/20/01
Posts: 391
Loc: Auburn
Troller, I don't think there is anything wrong withyour knots. The sockeye spin like a cutplug at 3mph. The line gets twisted and tangled which will lead to brakage. My partner ran 25lb test line and had the same problem. I started w/ 40lb test and didn't. Just my .2
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#156350 - 08/01/02 07:28 PM Re: help tying a snell knot with two hooks
devine Offline
Juvenille at Sea

Registered: 10/06/00
Posts: 111
Loc: Bremerton,WA
I just ran a fisherman's knot on the first hook and left about a foot and a half to 2 feet on the extra line and then made another fisherman's knotso the hooks were a foot or so apart (25lb test).Hope that is easy enough to visualize. We caught fish and only lost a fish to a line break when the fish hit the prop. Amatuers....
devine

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#156351 - 08/02/02 12:21 AM Re: help tying a snell knot with two hooks
K B Offline
Juvenille at Sea

Registered: 09/17/00
Posts: 184
Loc: Woodinville WA
My guess is that you were using Trileen or some other crap line that as soon as it gets a nick from a tooth or something it breaks
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