Just thought that you would like to see how well the WDFW & ODFW are taking care of the fish runs entering the Columbia River. The Gill netters will never give up their choke hold on WDFW & ODFW! When will they ever learn? Coho fishermen better just hang up their rods for the nex three weeks while the netters have their field day again!!!

Cowlitzfisherman

Is the taste of the bait worth the sting of the hook????

COLUMBIA RIVER COMPACT/JOINT STATE
ACTION NOTICE

Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife September 27, 2002

THE FOLLOWING COLUMBIA RIVER SEASONS WERE SET:

Non-Indian Commercial Fishery:

Dates: Monday, September 30, 7:00 PM to Tuesday, October 1, 7:00 PM (24 hours)
Wednesday, October 2, 7:00 PM to Thursday, October 3, 7:00 PM (24 hours)
Sunday, October 6, 7:00 PM to Monday, October 7, 7:00 PM (24 hours)
Wednesday, October 9, 7:00 PM to Thursday, October 10, 7:00 PM (24 hours)

Area: Mouth upstream to Beacon Rock (Zones 1-5)

Sanctuaries: Grays River, Elokomin-A, Abernathy Creek, Cowlitz, Kalama-A, Lewis-A, Sandy River and Washougal River

Gear: 9 ¾" maximum mesh size restriction in Zones 1-3.
8" minimum and 9 ¾" maximum mesh size restriction in Zones 4-5.

Allowable
Sales: Salmon and sturgeon

Miscellaneous: Maximum limit of 5 white sturgeon may be possessed or sold by each participating vessel during each open fishing period

Cowman, I'm sure glad you bring this up. Although the native fisherman are leagle to fish , not too many nets out. I just bought some tule eggs for next year (40lbs) and found out that they are getting 5cents a lb for tules. steelies are going for .35 a lb. The natives I bought from are pulling the few nets they have out because of no profits. I wonder what they will be getting below Bonneville? A lot fo b-runs comming in now. The Duck

Duck, you bought egg's from who?

RR, I bought from the Yakamas! Like every year. Do you have a problem with that. They were tule eggs, you can't beat them. Be careful here RR. Jim Marquis

"Be Careful here"........ Or What?

Littlezozo, this is none of your business. Stay out. The Duck

Well at least they made some money on them eggs !

Duck...... If this is a private matter then why on God's green earth are you posting it on a public forum? You said "Be Careful"..... Be careful of what? Is that like "be Carefull, or I'm going to find out where you live and kill you"? Or is it more like "I'm only telling you to be carefull because it makes me sound menacing and when push comes to shove I really can't do anything substantial because this is just the internet so I can say about anything I want and never have to worry about actually having to back it up"? I was just curious. BTW, Why are you so defensive about buying eggs from the indians?

Oh, one more thing....... "Be Carefull"

Kids never understand. Why are you trying to instigate? I got better things to do then think about your child like attitude. It doesn't concern you so why stick your nose into other peoples business. This was addressed to RapidRobert, not littlezozo. Jim Marquis

"Other persons business" maybe should be kept to e-mail...just a suggestion...no need to get panties bunched up Duck? But if you post it then it seems like it is then anyones business? Just a suggestion though. Don't like it well you just don't have to like it .

duck I know what you are saying about those Tule eggs they are fantastic. I have always bought a few eggs from the Indians dipping down on the lower Klick. I like the fresh dipped eggs.

Buying eggs from anyone is such a foreign concept to me - perhaps if you are a guide you may have to, but me, I've caught so many hens recently that I've got way more eggs than I could possibly use this season cured up already, and I'm bringing 5 pounds to work on Monday to hand out to those less fortunate :p

Gooose....... "Be Careful".

Duck I disagree that the issues here should be a private matter. But before I open up a big can of worms that will produce a plethora of inflammatory anti-Indian posts, I best shut my trap. Still I think its ironic that a post about non-tribal commercials somehow got twisted. All sides need to jettison years of ingrained hatred (my vague ***** post).

Duck, only thing I agree with there is Tule egg's do make great bait..... realy suck up the
color and the cure.
Jim, I'm always careful.

I am amazed how an informational posting can get so sidetracked!! With that being said, I was just wondering why the news release about the Columbia River net season DID NOT say that the new "tangle" nets were to be used. What ever happen to the "tangle nets"?

The last time that I heard, this was the new savior for the continued gill net fishery. Has anyone heard why they are not required now for the current Columbia River gill net fishery?

It seems to me, that the "tangle nets" were the gill netters last recourse to continuing a fishery that almost always kills what ever enters the net. Could someone please tell me what's going on now?

Thanks… and please stay focused on the issue at hand

Cowlitzfisherman
Is the taste of the bait worth the sting of the hook????

COLUMBIA RIVER COMPACT/JOINT STATE
ACTION NOTICE

Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife September 30, 2002

The next Compact Meeting has been scheduled for
Wednesday, October 9, 2002 at 1:00 PM by telephone.

Call Sharon Bird at ODFW for information at
(503) 872-5252 ext. 5333

or you may attend in person at ODFW's office in
Portland, Oregon - Director's conference room.

For those of you that are concerned, or feed-up with the current runaway Columbia River Gill net fishery, there is a chance to voice our opinions on shutting it down before they offer themselves another extension again on October the 9 th.

We can make a difference, but only if we speak our voices, and speak them loudly!!

If you care about the fishery on the Columbia River and its triibutaries, please make a copy of these email addresses and make a copy of your letter to each one on the list. This is the email for all the top dogs that are making the decision to continue the Columbia River Gill net fishery.

Please tell them how feed up you are with their half-ass, one sided management plan, and how feed up you are with their leaving the public out of any reasonable opperetunity to make any public comment or impute to their management policy.

Here are the email list of names that are currently calling the commercial harvest on the Columbia River right now!

Do it, and do it now!!

Cowlitzfisherman
Is the taste of the bait worth the sting of the hook????

"Patricia Martell" <marteprm@dfw.wa.gov>
To:
<netrackslpi@aol.com>, <urabeck@attbi.com>, "Victor Albaladejo" <ALBALVDA@dfw.wa.gov>,
"Jennifer Amren" <AMRENJJA@dfw.wa.gov>, "Ted Anderson" <ANDERCTA@dfw.wa.gov>,
"Phil Anderson" <ANDERPMA@dfw.wa.gov>, "Lew Atkins" <ATKINLJA@dfw.wa.gov>,
"Wendy Beeghley" <BEEGHWLB@dfw.wa.gov>, "Craig BURLEY" <BURLECCB@dfw.wa.gov>,
"John Burrows" <BURROJHB@dfw.wa.gov>, "Jim BYRNE" <BYRNEJBB@dfw.wa.gov>, "Brad Cady" <CADYBJC@dfw.wa.gov>,
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"Wolf Dammers" <DAMMEWHD@dfw.wa.gov>, "Mayla Donwerth" <donwemdd@dfw.wa.gov>, <dumbabrd@dfw.wa.gov>,
"Tim Flint" <flintrtf@dfw.wa.gov>, "Lyle Fox" <FOXLGF@dfw.wa.gov>, "Dennis Gilliland" <GILLIDRG@dfw.wa.gov>,
"Bryce Glaser" <GLASEBGG@dfw.wa.gov>, "Steve Gray" <GRAYSWG@dfw.wa.gov>, "Kelly Harlan" <HARLAKRH@dfw.wa.gov>,
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"Joe Hymer" <HYMERJAH@dfw.wa.gov>, "Bonnie Jackman" <jackmbfj@dfw.wa.gov>, "Brad James" <JAMESBWJ@dfw.wa.gov>,
<johnsmjj@dfw.wa.gov>, "Richard Johnson" <JOHNSREJ@dfw.wa.gov>, "Ken Keller" <kellekwk@dfw.wa.gov>,
"Stacie Kelsey" <KELSYSLK@dfw.wa.gov>, "Jeff Koenings" <koenijpk@dfw.wa.gov>, "Olaf Langness" <LANGNOL@dfw.wa.gov>,
"Larrie Lavoy" <LAVOYLWL@dfw.wa.gov>, "Cindy LeFleur" <LEFLECML@dfw.wa.gov>, "Rich Lincoln" <LINCORHL@dfw.wa.gov>,
"Patricia Martell" <marteprm@dfw.wa.gov>, "Julie Memarian" <MEMARJAM@dfw.wa.gov>, "Marc Miller" <MILLEMCM@dfw.wa.gov>,
<morriddm@dfw.wa.gov>, "Will Morrison" <MORRIWGM@dfw.wa.gov>, "Rob Nicolay" <NICOLRBN@dfw.wa.gov>,
"Larry Peck" <pecklwp@dfw.wa.gov>, "Rich Pettit" <PETTIRHP@dfw.wa.gov>, "Robert Powell" <POWELRRP@dfw.wa.gov>,
"Dan Rawding" <RAWDIDR@dfw.wa.gov>, "Brad RHODEN" <RHODEBLR@dfw.wa.gov>, "Ron Roler" <ROLERRJR@dfw.wa.gov>,
"Robert G. Schafer" <SCHAFRGS@dfw.wa.gov>, "Murray Schlenker" <schlems@dfw.wa.gov>, "John Sewall" <sewaljes@dfw.wa.gov>,
"Sheila Smith" <smithsks@dfw.wa.gov>, "Lu-Anne Stevens" <STEVENLS@dfw.wa.gov>, "Carol Turcotte" <TURCOCMT@dfw.wa.gov>,
"Bill Tweit" <TWEITWMT@dfw.wa.gov>, "Steve VanderPloeg" <vandesmv@dfw.wa.gov>,
"Lee Van Tussenbrook" <VANTULV@dfw.wa.gov>, <wagemcww@dfw.wa.gov>, "Mike Wall" <WALLMFW@dfw.wa.gov>,
"Rick Webb" <webbrtw@dfw.wa.gov>, "John Weinheimer" <WEINHJMW@dfw.wa.gov>, "Ralph Woods" <WOODSRRW@dfw.wa.gov>,
<laukkanens@hotmail.com>, <doumit_ma@leg.wa.gov>, <ward_ka@leg.wa.gov>, <jaderbug@pacifier.com>,
<kevleen.a.melcher@state.or.us>, <blake@techline.com>, <cpr-fish@toledotel.com>, <doctorb@willapabay.org>

Hey call me what you will ..... careful would be one.... What are tule eggs? Being from the armpit of America... well we don't know what Tule means and me's would like to know. Thanks fellas
devine

ps Hey Duck you from the east coast or something man? You sure are one firey individual. Good to see.

Oh forgot to add for those of you that don't know the armpit of America is New Jersey.
peace on the board
devine

devine, Tule salmon only go up the Columbia River mostly going to Spring Creek Hatchery. This strain of chinook most of the time come up already dark. Not very palitable. Old Indians have told me they use to just through them away when they were netting for up river brights. The eggs are very good to set up and fish. By the way, Sring Creek hatchery is the only hatchery I've heard of that raises Tule salmon. Jim Marquis, Duck In The Fog