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#168583 - 12/12/02 05:16 PM Crazy question
Steelieblue Offline
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Registered: 01/12/01
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Loc: Seattle
All right...I am moving to alaska in the summer and have been doing some thinking. I once knew this guy that moved up there with very little experience fishing salmon but managed to find a some group to take him on as a guide, they trained him and then employed him. Has anyone heard of this because my wife is receptive to the idea...I need to strike before that changes.

Any help greatly appreciated. Thanks
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#168584 - 12/12/02 06:10 PM Re: Crazy question
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Registered: 11/03/01
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Might check the ads in STS mag. Seems like I remember seeing something like that.
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#168585 - 12/12/02 06:11 PM Re: Crazy question
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Registered: 03/09/99
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Loc: TACOMA,WA
There was an ad in this months Salmon, trout and Steelheader of an Alaska outfit looking to hire a full time guide...Tikchik Narrows Lodge

(907) 248-3091 good luck
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#168586 - 12/14/02 11:08 PM Re: Crazy question
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Registered: 03/05/99
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Loc: Forks, WA & Soldotna, AK
Actually SB, it's not a crazy question at all.

It's funny you should ask this though, as I'm currently working on our new version of our site and on our "Why Us?" page for AK, that's something we make mention of, that we don't simply hire someone on, tech them to fish an area over a few days or a wekk and start sending clients out with them (sorry!).

It's actually quite common at many of the larger outfits to do this, do some digging and you should find some leads. Get on it though, as I get 2-3 emails a day from people looking for guide positions in AK and most pople like to arrange things early.

Despite the fact I have trouble knowing that folks that are often saving for a trip of a lifetime end up hopping aboard a boat with someone who got there a couple of days before them ... good luck to you smile
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#168587 - 12/16/02 12:20 PM Re: Crazy question
Steelieblue Offline
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Registered: 01/12/01
Posts: 53
Loc: Seattle
Bob-

Your point is well taken. I thought about that myself. Perhaps I will just stick to my field of expertise and do the fishing for myself! Thanks for your input.

Josh
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#168588 - 12/16/02 03:49 PM Re: Crazy question
AkKings Offline
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Registered: 03/13/00
Posts: 1830
Loc: Kelso Wa.
Steelieblue, another option if your interested in saltwater fishing is to get hired on as a fish cutter or dockhand, spend a couple seasons doing this and acquiring sea-time and fishing experience, then enroll in a sea-school and obtain a captains license, I know 3 or 4 guys that have gone this route and found guide jobs shortly after getting licensed, usually by the resort/lodge they were already working for.

What part of the state are you moving to? if S.E. I can give you names and # of who to talk to and who to avoid.

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#168589 - 12/17/02 12:58 AM Re: Crazy question
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Registered: 09/30/02
Posts: 412
Loc: Sequim
Is it your intent to fish only salt or do you consider rivers an option? The reason I ask is because the two different areas of expertise require diverse knowledge.

I haven't guided salt but as Bob suggests you'll have to learn the area well before you'ld be of much use. Mostly because you don't get the same indication of the bottom and it's structure by just looking at the surface water the way you can on a river. This situation is slightly different on moving water. If you do a lot of river fishing and have operated a boat on rivers you probably can fish most any piece of water, and have somewhat of an understanding of where the fish are or should be holding. Combined with the fact the fish migrate to the rivers makes guiding rivers a little easier IMHO.

I used to guide the Alagnak (Branch) river outside King Salmon/Dillingham Alaska. While I wasn't the most knowledable of the holes on the river I did understand how to read the water. This translated into near instant fishing success for the salmon and trout runs (what else is ther?).

Another thing that will help a first timer is to find out who the lodge owner is. Call them, tell them that your interested in guiding and above all when you get one that agrees to meet you, pack all your confidence up in yourself and take it with you. They'll usually ask, "what makes you think you can guide a river". My response was a little cocky but it landed me the job, "I know I can. I have exceptional people skills. I understand rivers, and I can show people a good time while fishing too. What would make you think I can't." I brought an asortment of rigs I'd tied, and flies, which were effective for the area I would be fishing. I studied the runs so that I knew the different seasons. A little research goes a long way. But the bottom line is, if you don't have boat knowledge, and/or fishing knowledge you're starting off at a deficit. You'll need to get that skill somewhere and a couple years as camp help will go a ways to getting you there as suggested earlier.

Some other things to consider about the life are that you're paid a negotiated fee plus tipping. The tipping is where the money is. Motivation to understand your job well! In the lodge I worked at we were basically with the customer from the wee hours of the morning until around 5:30PM, seven days a week for six months. I had maybe four or five days off the entire time. We were in a desolate area of Alaska with no phones and nothing other than float planes. boats, and the clients we guided for six months. There is a definate culture shock when you return to "the world". Driving a car the first time will freak you out! Hope my rambling helps laugh
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