3 bogus audio tapes, and one poor video, is that all it takes to convince you? I find that to be a poor excuse made after the fact. Since those audio and video tapes were all available when you posted that you also thought OBL was dead.

I stand by my assertion that you changed your mind when you realized my theory made Generalissimo Busho look like a punk.

"I stand by my assertion that you changed your mind when you realized my theory made Generalissimo Busho look like a punk."


V,

Knock yourself out Brah!

Just another bit of news that follows recognized patterns. This is from the AP wire.


See first post on this thread. The quote below is from the list of findings that led me to suspect that OBL was already dead.

Now curious new information has come to me by way of friend. The missile strike that first reportedly killed Ayman al-Zawahri, then reportedly did not kill him, then reportedly killed other Al Queda members is more of the same manipulation of news by Company officials.

Well Al-Zawahri is dead, and tissue samples are being sent to Dover for analysis. Minds were changed on whether to release that information. Seems that electronic surveillance would be of more use if mid level Al Queada management thought that he was alive. Communication links would be available whereby terrorist suspects would think they were communicating with their boss, but instead would be chatting with American intel officers.

Why would this information be released through backchannels, and informally to people who will disseminate this information via blogs and BBS postings? Because it creates confusion and mistrust in Al Queda's command and communication structure. If they are unsure what communiques are from thier leadership and which are from the CIA then plans begin to break down. If they are unsure whether their leaders are even alive or not, planning and execution of plans begins to break down.

Maybe Osama will "be dead" just in time for a triumphant announcement before the November elections.

i wouldnt be suprised at all if he is dead......there is no limit to the depths that this administration will sink to......they are a sickening smear on this country

Let me put on my foil hat and channel Rmatha for the answer.

Vhawk,
You say Osama is dead and the tape that came out the other day was fake. We know that every decison the Bush administration makes is for domestic political purposes. So if Osama is dead, what's the domestic political advantage to the Bu****es of concealing that info and faking tapes?

So GW can justify domestic spying. He can then spy on Vinny and find out where the salmon are pooling what glasses to wear and what holes to fish next fall.

Suckersnagger,

The answer to your question is in the first post of this thread. By having the 'boogeyman' running around alive, the American people give Bush free reign to do whatever he feels he needs to, in order to "Protect the American People". But if Bin Laden is dead then more Americans might start to wonder "WTF is this guy doing?"

There are very good reasons from an intelligence and counterterrorism viewpoint that can be made to not publish Bin Ladens death. I think it is for those reasons that his death continues to be kept secret. If there were no reasons other then political, it would seriously piss off the career spooks. Bush is stupid, but is he stupid enough to really piss off the career CIA guys?


JLH,

Very interesting link. I also thought that the content of the last tape sounded nothing like the crap OBL spouted off during the 90's. Its funny to read that the biographer thinks OBL is dead as well.

TK, it is flattering to know that you pay such close attention to my advice . I hope your learning something. Maybe if you ask real nice I can teach you how to fish. BTW G.HW.Bush wouldn't have to spy on me, I'd take him along. I liked Pappy Bush. Its his son that I'd like to use as a float for an oversized crabpot.

Fear was this admins campaign slogan. Hard for people to be afraid of a dead guy.

On a side note....does anyone know if GW can see his reflection in a mirror? I've been wondering about that.

Vince,

The Republican media machine is cranking that the last Osama tape sounded just like anti-war Democrats. Could that be intentional?

Sure it is. OBL and the boys want the dems in power who would not. I can think of no easier enemy than the liberals. Just look to Spain to see how easy an enemy they are to fight.

So is it fear when you have locks on your doors, you don't leave valuable fishing gear in your vehicle on the rivers? that you insist on background checks at schools etc. where others supervise your kids. Or is it common sense?

Iuse a lot of common sense to protect my family and home and I have never met anyone that caused me fear. I have seen some rough places.

NO, its fear that makes idiots think it is a good idead to frisk little old ladies at the airport, it is fear that makes some people believe that taking away my nail clippers will keep us safe, it is fear that has given one egomaniac the consent to put hundreds of thousands of soldiers in harms way for what has turned out to be lies.


If you've never meet anyone who has made you feel afraid then something is lacking in you. Its a natural mechanism of self protection. But cowardice and fear are not the same thing.

KT said, "So is it fear when you have locks on your doors, you don't leave valuable fishing gear in your vehicle on the rivers? that you insist on background checks at schools etc. where others supervise your kids. Or is it common sense?

Iuse a lot of common sense to protect my family and home and I have never met anyone that caused me fear. I have seen some rough places."

Sure, it's fear that causes us to lock doors and take other precautions. Fear occurs in degrees. And it is common sense to have a reasonable amount of fear based about what is known about potential threats.

You must live in a rough neigborhood to have a security system at your gate, or did you just make that up to serve one of your posts?

"You must live in a rough neigborhood to have a security system at your gate, or did you just make that up to serve one of your posts?"

I installed video so my wife can see who is coming through the gate. Our driveway is nearly a mile long and you cannot see the road or another house from our home. We had a few things stolen and an attempted break in from a local with bi polar. Pretty safe area really.

vhawk,
I too think he has been dead all along.
If they keep the american people scared,
then they can keep getting what they want,
when they want.

"Well Al-Zawahri is dead, and tissue samples are being sent to Dover for analysis."

It appears that ol Al is alive and kicking. Maybe it's Robert duvall playing him for GW and the boys?


http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/01/30/D8FF60781.html


Hey Vinny any hot tips on the stock market?

hey tk-how does tim eyeman taste??????? better than rory?