Do you really believe that or do you just find it interesting?

A little of both.
your highness

Thought I would ask. I try not to judge by someone looks but it is usually right on. Thats why they call it a sterotype.

Being a dick as usual!

Is that why you don't post your pic?
So no one can see the real you.

Yes he is Wailuku.
If we don't think like him,our opinions mean
nothing,Right your highness

Conspiracy theories mean nothing to me. I believe that they are a form of mental illness.
If you truely believe that site is even partially true how do you account for all those people buying into it and keeping the big hoax alive? Seems to me that once more than a few people know a secret that it gets out. With all the people out there hunting down dirt on GW I would find it a bigger story that the hoax was kept seceret.
Then when you post this silly stuff why would you be sensitive about a response to it and take it personally? You have chosen to be out there one would think that at an advanced age that a certain sense of comfort would come from being "progressive" in ones thoughts?
Hoh, you are not a comformist clearly , I respect that but i would think that how people look at you at this point would be meaningless. Wackyloo is just a liberal puzzy and he is not even creative in the liberal drivel he spews.

If they keep the american people scared,
then they can keep getting what they want,
when they want.

(Then when you post this silly stuff why would you be sensitive about a response to it and take it personally)
See that grin on my face,does it look like I took it personally.Heh

Nice theory. So I suppoe it is safe to assume that the WTC was a hoax as well? Why did it not work with the war on drugs? Why not with obesitiy ,Safe sex aids etc ? It seems to me those topics cover the majority of the govts message to the people over the past 30 years. Or are we just smart enough not to buy those little ones just the big ones?

Seems to me literally 1000's of people would have to be involved given the scale. The odds are that a few would break ranks.

He can't help himself...

"See that grin on my face,does it look like I took it personally.Heh"

No it does not but this does.

If we don't think like him,our opinions mean
nothing,Right your highness .

If you want to have your opinion I get to have mine. Neither one more valid than the other. Then whats the point in saying things in a place like this? We could just keep out thoughts to ourselves. I think we want to provoke a response. I know I do I like to see people think rather than just spew like Wacky. He never brings up any original topics he just shoots from behind the couch and runs. Never engages just says you are wrong and claims he does not have to prove it.

And his self righteous drivel continues...

Sure.

Should we cry when you give your opinion? You know, like you do when we give ours.......

"like you do when we give ours......."

Are you claiming to be Michael Moore now? because your "view's" are right out of his movies and web site.

Are they?

Your views are right out of your ass.

Snappy come back.

I'll be here all the week.

Am I out of my mind for thinking that the far right AND the far left are nuts?
I feel like the lone ranger thinking that good AND bad comes from both parties.
You are a tool to be completley in lockstep with one political faction.
Just MY opinion.

Salmonella, no you are NOT out of your mind. Those of us somewhat in the middle ask that same question regularly.

Transvestites think they are middle of the road. Men at work and women at night.

Yes, KT, I always remember that you post here just to see if you can p!ss people off. Seems like your currency is wearing thinner and thinner here anymore. What's your next move?

I am not worried about it SG. I get email from lurkers all the time telling me how the girls here post on other sites. Seem they have a habit of attacking anyone that does not agree with them. Yet here they claim the opposite. Go on over to Ifish and see what happens when you don't attack people. These people never post to contribute where they cannot attack and call names. Why not address them? oh the do as I say not as I do rule I forgot.

Talk about a pot and kettle story.

Nobody's style is more different here vs. Ifish than yours.


"They", or you?

They first Dan 100% of the time. You cannot start something then cry about it after. How many topics do you start here or anywhere? Seems like all you do is drives by's.

Says the doorknob with 4800+ posts......8 of which were fishing or hunting related.

"They did it first!"

I am not the one crying about it am I drive by?

Yes. You are.

It's OK lil' fella. Don't wet yourself over those mean ol' liberals attacking you. Boobity boo.

"mean ol' liberals attacking you."

You girls are about as mean a group of homo's at an Elton John concert.

Your real fears coming out?

I've been to Elton john concerts and I could care less if someone is gay or straight. I treat people how they treat me.

And if they're treating you well, you get right to work making sure they change that asap.

This whole thing reminds me of a movie.
The Long Kiss Goodnight.
How did that big ol jet fly so close to the ground,going that fast an just punch a nice
round hole into the side of that building.
Where are the wing marks,all that fuel an the jet it self?

Hoh Humm,
this has been around for sometime now. Consider it a "gateway" type conspiracy as it is to suggest that the original passenger plane never actually hit the pentagon. So, the big question is where did it go?? Some theorists believe that when Cheney took command (while George was reading to children), he ordered that planes be shot out of the sky. I'm paraphrasing here, not real sure of the exact phrase Cheney supposedly used. And of course this begins the new conspiracy of: Did cheney order americans to be shot down because of the fear of more planes taking out institutions?
My opinion (not that I think anyone really cares) is that it is difficult to see the remnants of a Boeing plane on the Pentagon lawn or in it's walls, however, how incredibly difficult would be to cover this up?? My guess is it would be pretty frickin hard. So, like you, I find it interesting, and until someone comes up with hard proof, I must consider it a conspiracy theory.

Salmonella, you sound sane. Btw that is meant as a compliment. On this thread I had to say that.
Hey! Tk, I like Ho Humm, Adds a bit of lanolin to the thread A N D he seems to treat you with respect although not necessarily agreeing with you. Funny about the conspiracy theory, and the lack of wing imprints on the building. I have never been able to find vane or feather imprints on anything pierced by my arrows either. Perhaps since there was a lot less glass on the exterior of the Pentagon vs the glassy exterior of the Trade Center buildings, the mechanics of the impact were different.

No plane parts an no bodies.
I think that our government took advantage of a
situation.
And punched that hole into that building themselves.
Our government has covered up alot of things in the past,an they could have done this with ease.
Again this is of my own opinion,an I am not tring
to make anyone beleave as I do.
Just look into the history of our past government.
Like JFK.This is just one example,there are many others.

My oldest daughter lives in D.C. and was on her way to work that morning, having just crossed the bridge into Arlington. She didn't see the plane hit, but talked to people who said they witnessed it. It would be hard to hide that.

Too many witnesses Ho Humm. No way to fake that hit. Most folks can tell the difference between a Tomohawk missile and a 757.

I would bet my ol beat to rat poop Berkley,
that,that was not a 757 that punched that round hole into the side of that building.
Still no plane parts.

The Black Box on a 757 is designed to last through any crash. What did the Black Box say?

Duluth, MN (PRWEB) January 30, 2006 -- A group of distinguished experts and scholars, including Robert M. Bowman, James H. Fetzer, Wayne Madsen, John McMurtry, Morgan Reynolds, and Andreas von Buelow, have concluded that senior government officials have covered up crucial facts about what really happened on 9/11.

They have joined with others in common cause as members of "Scholars for 9/11 Truth" (S9/11T), because they are convinced, based on their own research, that the administration has been deceiving the nation about critical events in New York and Washington, D.C.

These experts suggest these events may have been orchestrated by elements within the administration to manipulate Americans into supporting policies at home and abroad they would never have condoned absent "another Pearl Harbor."

They believe that this White House is incapable of investigating itself and hope the possibility that Congress might hold an unaccountable administration accountable is not merely naive or wishful thinking.

They are encouraging news services around the world to secure scientific advice by taking advantage of university resources to verify or to falsify their discoveries. Extraordinary situations, they believe, require extraordinary measures.

If this were done, they contend, one of the great hoaxes of history would stand naked before the eyes of the world and its perpetrators would be clearly exposed, which may be the only hope for saving this nation from ever greater abuse.

They hope this might include The New York Times, which, in their opinion, has repeatedly failed to exercise the leadership expected from our nation's newspaper of record by a series of inexplicable lapses. It has failed to vigorously investigate tainted elections, lies leading to the war in Iraq, or illegal NSA spying on the American people, major unconstitutional events. In their view, The Times might compensate for its loss of stature by helping to reveal the truth about one of the great turning-point events of modern history.

Stunning as it may be to acknowledge, they observe, the government has brought but one indictment against anyone and, to the best of their knowledge, has not even reprimanded anyone for incompetence or dereliction of duty. The official conspiracy theory--that nineteen Arab hijackers under control of one man in the wilds of Afghanistan brought this about--is unsupportable by the evidential data, which they have studied. They even believe there are good reasons for suspecting that video tapes officially attributed to Osama bin Laden are not genuine.

They have found the government's own investigation to be severely flawed. The 9/11 Commission, designated to investigate the attack, was directed by Philip Zelikow, part of the Bush transition team in the NSA sector and the co-author of a book with Condoleezza Rice. A Bush supporter and director of national security affairs, he could hardly be expected to conduct an objective and impartial investigation.

They have discovered that The 9/11 Commission Report is replete with omissions, distortions, and factual errors, which David Ray Griffin has documented in his book, The 9/11 Commission Report: Omissions and Distortions. The official report, for example, entirely ignores the collapse of WTC7, a 47-story building, which was hit by no airplanes, was only damaged by a few small fires, and fell seven hours after the attack.

Here are some of the kinds of considerations that these experts and scholars find profoundly troubling:

In the history of structural engineering, steel-frame high-rise buildings have never been brought down due to fires either before or since 9/11, so how can fires have brought down three in one day? How is this possible?

The BBC has reported that at least five of the nineteen alleged "hijackers" have turned up alive and well living in Saudi Arabia, yet according to the FBI, they were among those killed in the attacks. How is this possible?

Frank DeMartini, a project manager for the WTC, said the buildings were designed with load redistribution capabilities to withstand the impact of airliners, whose effects would be like "puncturing mosquito netting with a pencil." Yet they completely collapsed. How is this possible?

Since the melting point of steel is about 2,700°F, the temperature of jet fuel fires does not exceed 1,800°F under optimal conditions, and UL certified the steel used to 2,000°F for six hours, the buildings cannot have collapsed due to heat from the fires. How is this possible?

Flight 77, which allegedly hit the building, left the radar screen in the vicinity of the Ohio/Kentucky border, only to "reappear" in very close proximity to the Pentagon shortly before impact. How is this possible?

Foreign "terrorists" who were clever enough to coordinate hijacking four commercial airliners seemingly did not know that the least damage to the Pentagon would be done by hitting its west wing. How is this possible?

Secretary of Transportation Norman Mineta, in an underground bunker at the White House, watched Vice President Cheney castigate a young officer for asking, as the plane drew closer and closer to the Pentagon, "Do the orders still stand?" The order cannot have been to shoot it down, but must have been the opposite. How is this possible?

A former Inspector General for the Air Force has observed that Flight 93, which allegedly crashed in Pennsylvania, should have left debris scattered over an area less than the size of a city block; but it is scattered over an area of about eight square miles. How is this possible?

A tape recording of interviews with air traffic controllers on duty on 9/11 was deliberately crushed, cut into very small pieces, and distributed in assorted places to insure its total destruction. How is this possible?

The Pentagon conducted a training exercise called "MASCAL" simulating the crash of a Boeing 757 into the building on 24 October 2000, and yet Condoleezza Rice, among others, has repeatedly asserted that "no one ever imagined" a domestic airplane could be used as a weapon. How is this possible?
Their own physics research has established that only controlled demolitions are consistent with the near-gravity speed of fall and virtually symmetrical collapse of all three of the WTC buildings. While turning concrete into very fine dust, they fell straight-down into their own footprints.
These experts and scholars have found themselves obliged to conclude that the 9/11 atrocity represents an instance of the approach--which has been identified by Karl Rove, the President's closest adviser--of "creating our own reality."

Thanks, papaslap.
More good read.

I am always burning up beer cans, it doesn't take much to melt them.

it was a j-dam missile that went into the pentagon......a plane could have never gone thru three of the rings of the pentagon......i think that the only plane with actual american citizens on it went down in pennsylvania..... the terrorists had no guns....americans would have fought back on any plane hyjacked by guys with box cutters immediately

all the original reports of the two planes that went into the towers said that they were windowless non-commercial aircraft........

welcome to the outer limits.

Put down the bong man!

No bong here,glass Sherlock. :p

right PM- the bush amin. is to be trusted with anything and everything they say!!!!!!

they have provent hemselves to be very trustworthy!!!

and im sure you dont believe the cia director in charge of middle east intelligence that now says that the bush admin cerry picked intelligence to support an invasion of iraq and ignored or hid intelligence that didnt support their claims AND that the decision had been pre-decided before the intelligence gathering AND pre-decided before 911!!!!!!!!!

Lupo , have you been drinking this morning?

Please tell me what politician or admin is to be trusted with EVERYTHING they say? I'm not to sure what the CIA director cherry picking intel has to do with you stating there was a JDAM launched into the pentagon?

What reports? I'd like to see "all" . The National Enquirer does not count as a legitimate source either.

http://thewebfairy.com/killtown/pentalawn.html

Nice lawn,Heh