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#172452 - 02/13/06 07:32 PM Re: I found this interesting
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Duluth, MN (PRWEB) January 30, 2006 -- A group of distinguished experts and scholars, including Robert M. Bowman, James H. Fetzer, Wayne Madsen, John McMurtry, Morgan Reynolds, and Andreas von Buelow, have concluded that senior government officials have covered up crucial facts about what really happened on 9/11.

They have joined with others in common cause as members of "Scholars for 9/11 Truth" (S9/11T), because they are convinced, based on their own research, that the administration has been deceiving the nation about critical events in New York and Washington, D.C.

These experts suggest these events may have been orchestrated by elements within the administration to manipulate Americans into supporting policies at home and abroad they would never have condoned absent "another Pearl Harbor."

They believe that this White House is incapable of investigating itself and hope the possibility that Congress might hold an unaccountable administration accountable is not merely naive or wishful thinking.

They are encouraging news services around the world to secure scientific advice by taking advantage of university resources to verify or to falsify their discoveries. Extraordinary situations, they believe, require extraordinary measures.

If this were done, they contend, one of the great hoaxes of history would stand naked before the eyes of the world and its perpetrators would be clearly exposed, which may be the only hope for saving this nation from ever greater abuse.

They hope this might include The New York Times, which, in their opinion, has repeatedly failed to exercise the leadership expected from our nation's newspaper of record by a series of inexplicable lapses. It has failed to vigorously investigate tainted elections, lies leading to the war in Iraq, or illegal NSA spying on the American people, major unconstitutional events. In their view, The Times might compensate for its loss of stature by helping to reveal the truth about one of the great turning-point events of modern history.

Stunning as it may be to acknowledge, they observe, the government has brought but one indictment against anyone and, to the best of their knowledge, has not even reprimanded anyone for incompetence or dereliction of duty. The official conspiracy theory--that nineteen Arab hijackers under control of one man in the wilds of Afghanistan brought this about--is unsupportable by the evidential data, which they have studied. They even believe there are good reasons for suspecting that video tapes officially attributed to Osama bin Laden are not genuine.

They have found the government's own investigation to be severely flawed. The 9/11 Commission, designated to investigate the attack, was directed by Philip Zelikow, part of the Bush transition team in the NSA sector and the co-author of a book with Condoleezza Rice. A Bush supporter and director of national security affairs, he could hardly be expected to conduct an objective and impartial investigation.

They have discovered that The 9/11 Commission Report is replete with omissions, distortions, and factual errors, which David Ray Griffin has documented in his book, The 9/11 Commission Report: Omissions and Distortions. The official report, for example, entirely ignores the collapse of WTC7, a 47-story building, which was hit by no airplanes, was only damaged by a few small fires, and fell seven hours after the attack.

Here are some of the kinds of considerations that these experts and scholars find profoundly troubling:

In the history of structural engineering, steel-frame high-rise buildings have never been brought down due to fires either before or since 9/11, so how can fires have brought down three in one day? How is this possible?

The BBC has reported that at least five of the nineteen alleged "hijackers" have turned up alive and well living in Saudi Arabia, yet according to the FBI, they were among those killed in the attacks. How is this possible?

Frank DeMartini, a project manager for the WTC, said the buildings were designed with load redistribution capabilities to withstand the impact of airliners, whose effects would be like "puncturing mosquito netting with a pencil." Yet they completely collapsed. How is this possible?

Since the melting point of steel is about 2,700°F, the temperature of jet fuel fires does not exceed 1,800°F under optimal conditions, and UL certified the steel used to 2,000°F for six hours, the buildings cannot have collapsed due to heat from the fires. How is this possible?

Flight 77, which allegedly hit the building, left the radar screen in the vicinity of the Ohio/Kentucky border, only to "reappear" in very close proximity to the Pentagon shortly before impact. How is this possible?

Foreign "terrorists" who were clever enough to coordinate hijacking four commercial airliners seemingly did not know that the least damage to the Pentagon would be done by hitting its west wing. How is this possible?

Secretary of Transportation Norman Mineta, in an underground bunker at the White House, watched Vice President Cheney castigate a young officer for asking, as the plane drew closer and closer to the Pentagon, "Do the orders still stand?" The order cannot have been to shoot it down, but must have been the opposite. How is this possible?

A former Inspector General for the Air Force has observed that Flight 93, which allegedly crashed in Pennsylvania, should have left debris scattered over an area less than the size of a city block; but it is scattered over an area of about eight square miles. How is this possible?

A tape recording of interviews with air traffic controllers on duty on 9/11 was deliberately crushed, cut into very small pieces, and distributed in assorted places to insure its total destruction. How is this possible?

The Pentagon conducted a training exercise called "MASCAL" simulating the crash of a Boeing 757 into the building on 24 October 2000, and yet Condoleezza Rice, among others, has repeatedly asserted that "no one ever imagined" a domestic airplane could be used as a weapon. How is this possible?
Their own physics research has established that only controlled demolitions are consistent with the near-gravity speed of fall and virtually symmetrical collapse of all three of the WTC buildings. While turning concrete into very fine dust, they fell straight-down into their own footprints.
These experts and scholars have found themselves obliged to conclude that the 9/11 atrocity represents an instance of the approach--which has been identified by Karl Rove, the President's closest adviser--of "creating our own reality."
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#172453 - 02/13/06 09:04 PM Re: I found this interesting
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#172454 - 02/13/06 11:43 PM Re: I found this interesting
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Thanks, papaslap.
More good read. thumbs
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#172455 - 02/14/06 01:33 AM Re: I found this interesting
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I am always burning up beer cans, it doesn't take much to melt them.
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#172456 - 02/14/06 07:17 PM Re: I found this interesting
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it was a j-dam missile that went into the pentagon......a plane could have never gone thru three of the rings of the pentagon......i think that the only plane with actual american citizens on it went down in pennsylvania..... the terrorists had no guns....americans would have fought back on any plane hyjacked by guys with box cutters immediately

all the original reports of the two planes that went into the towers said that they were windowless non-commercial aircraft........
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#172457 - 02/15/06 09:44 AM Re: I found this interesting
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welcome to the outer limits.

Put down the bong man!
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#172458 - 02/15/06 10:33 AM Re: I found this interesting
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No bong here,glass Sherlock. laugh :p
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#172459 - 02/15/06 11:21 AM Re: I found this interesting
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right PM- the bush amin. is to be trusted with anything and everything they say!!!!!!

they have provent hemselves to be very trustworthy!!!

and im sure you dont believe the cia director in charge of middle east intelligence that now says that the bush admin cerry picked intelligence to support an invasion of iraq and ignored or hid intelligence that didnt support their claims AND that the decision had been pre-decided before the intelligence gathering AND pre-decided before 911!!!!!!!!!
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#172460 - 02/15/06 11:24 AM Re: I found this interesting
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Lupo , have you been drinking this morning?
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#172462 - 02/15/06 01:18 PM Re: I found this interesting
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Please tell me what politician or admin is to be trusted with EVERYTHING they say? I'm not to sure what the CIA director cherry picking intel has to do with you stating there was a JDAM launched into the pentagon?

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all the original reports of the two planes that went into the towers said that they were windowless non-commercial aircraft
What reports? I'd like to see "all" . The National Enquirer does not count as a legitimate source either.
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#172463 - 02/20/06 11:40 PM Re: I found this interesting
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#172464 - 02/21/06 12:33 AM Re: I found this interesting
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Nice lawn,Heh laugh
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