Not really. It's a personal insult to any Democrat here.

If you insult the party, you're personally insulting every member of that party.

At most it's a subtle difference. Surely not the way to start a thread you expect will be void of personal attacks......not that personal attacks bother me all that much.

JMHO, worth approximately what was paid for it.

No, it's not a subtle difference. But, if you don't get it then you don't get it.


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Let's add Colin Powell to the list. I suppose it's possible he could come out of retirement. I have always had great respect for the man.

It could be dark horse time. So far as I can see there are no obvious party nominees. I would not be surprised for the ultimate running candidate to surface at the last minute.

Probably Liebowitz is not a contender?.

Oh, and BTW KK saying:

"looking to bring some R's down"

and

"If Liberals Hated America...They'd Vote Republican"

does not personally offend me one bit..

I hope for balance so debate can be part of our governmental process. There is no debate when one party controls 2 of 3 (arguably all three) branches of government.

"If there was any chance that this transaction would jeopardize the security of the United States, it would not go forward"

Nothing like a heartfelt Bush justification for ANOTHER dumbassed decision.

Sorta makes all the fear go away....Kool aid gooooooooood!!!!

Rove thinks Bush is a good person? I doubt that's ever been a factor for Rove one way or another. It's all about power with Rove. Rove was successfully practicing the politics of deceit and smear when he was a Young Republican. He expressed the ambition to be the power behind the throne of a president long before he met Bush.

Bush's role in his relationship with Rove has been essentially passive. Bush didn't decide to go into politics and hire Rove to manage his campaigns. It was the other way around. Rove met Bush, decided Bush would be a manageable vehicle for his ambitions, and persuaded Bush to go into politics.

Speaking of Bush's passivity, I suppose everybody has heard how Cheney came to be V.P.? When Bush 2 was running for prez, Bush 1 sent Cheney to "help" Bush 2 select a VP candidate. After taking Bush's measure, Cheney selected himself.

OF the thread originating butt nuggets list I will pick Guilani. Of course it would be nice to write in Ollie North, Norman Schwartzkopf or Tommy Franks. If we must live in a belligerent world it's best to have a shooter in charge.

Actually Bush and Rove were selected by the very wealthiest. His coffers were the largest of all time. And he's been paying back with our dough ever since.

Colin Powell used up his credibility. One could say standing behind this admin was patriotic but a true soldier has a duty to expose treason.

Wow, you guys are right about McCain's age. I didn't realize he will be 72 in '08.

Sard,

Please pull Ollie from your list; he's a criminal. Generals have not generally been particularly effective presidents, so I'll disagree on the advisability of having a "shooter" in charge. The jobs are fundamentally different, I think, and that is probably why generals haven't been among the better presidents.

I liked Colin Powell, another general, but he wasted his credibility when he acted as a pawn for Bush. Too bad, as he had the potential to be a premier cabinet member of any administration.

KK,

I also appreciate principled individuals as candidates, but it seems that such a person is no longer electible. Maybe Bush is the catalyst to change that? One can hope.

Sincerely,

Salmo g.

What would the platform be for any candidate in '08?
Fighting Terrorism? (now being called the long war)Every candidate will be for this one.
Fixing our budget mess? Medicare, medicaid and social security are heading us into financial ruin as the Baby Boomers begin to retire. No one will want to touch this one. It requires cutting entitlements and raising taxes.
Strengthening our economy? How, by shipping more jobs to China?
Fix the problems that GW made? No republican would admit he made any and there isn't enough time for anybody to fix them all.
Anybody have any ideas?

I want ross perot to run again. The late night shows were much better back then. My second choice would be Pee Wee Herman, I bet he could jerk us off just as good as the rest do.

just because he got a presidential pardon doesnt mean that ollie north still doesnt deserve the death penalty..........hang em high

hang Clinton for that matter. Hes the brainstormer that gave the Chinese long range missle capability and created this mess in north korea.

Bill Clinton? You must be talking about some other Clinton, not about the Bill Clinton who was Prez during the good old days of balanced budgets, respect for the Constitution and unthreatened personal liberties, when our country was loved and respected all over the world.

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So KK, have you signed on to help Jimmy Carter's protege Jack 'Chip' Carter get elected to the Senate in Nevada yet?

If Pee Wee were pres we could export shoe mirrors.

Maybe one of the Bush twins will run and magically win by a nose. They'll chalk it up to a last minute endorsement from Paris hilton.

I am talking about the Bill clintons evil twin BILL CLINTON. He can only be seen by conservatives.

Can Colin distance himself from the party far enough? fast enough?

Man, did he pick the wrong side or what?

I'm sick of both major parties!
I know it's impossible, but if ever there was time for a third party (Maybe a national moderate party) the time would be now!

Salmosalar,
That's a good post!

I can see how the Dem's running a governor would be the way to go!

Don't know about Edwards. That fixed smile got a little old in the last election.