Check

 

Defiance Boats!

LURECHARGE!

THE PP OUTDOOR FORUMS

Kast Gear!

Power Pro Shimano Reels G Loomis Rods

  Willie boats! Puffballs!

 

Three Rivers Marine

 

 
Topic Options
Rate This Topic
#173540 - 03/08/06 12:48 PM Creation Myths
SuckerSnagger Offline
Spawner

Registered: 12/29/04
Posts: 528
Loc: Richland,Washington
A Gallup poll finds that over half of Americans accept the creation myth related in the Bible.

Informal Poll for PP members:

Do you accept the creation myth related in the Bible?

Do you accept a different creation myth? If so, which one?

Do you favor scientific explanation?

The article describing the Gallup poll, from Editor and Publisher:


"Gallup: More Than Half of Americans Reject Evolution, Back Bible

By E&P Staff

Published: March 08, 2006 10:15 AM ET

NEW YORK A Gallup report released today reveals that more than half of all Americans, rejecting evolution theory and scientific evidence, agree with the statement, "God created man exactly how Bible describes it."

Another 31% says that man did evolve, but "God guided." Only 12% back evolution and say "God had no part."

Gallup summarized it this way: "Surveys repeatedly show that a substantial portion of Americans do not believe that the theory of evolution best explains where life came from." They are "not so quick to agree with the preponderance of scientific evidence."

The report was written by the director of the The Gallup Poll, Frank Newport.

Breaking down the numbers, Gallup finds that Republican backing for what it calls "God created human beings in present form" stands at 57% with Democrats at 44%.

Support for this Bible view rises steadily with age: from 43% for those 18 to 29, to 59% for those 65 and older. It declines steadily with education, dropping from 58% for those with high school degrees to a still-substantial 25% with postgraduate degrees.

Newport wraps it up: "Several characteristics correlate with belief in the biblical explanation for the origin of humans. Those with lower levels of education, those who attend church regularly, those who are 65 and older, and those who identify with the Republican Party are more likely to believe that God created humans 'as is,' than are those who do not share these characteristics."

Gallup has asked this question, in different forms, going back to 1982, but has consistently shown support at 45% or higher for the notion that "God created man in present form."

The most recent poll, last September, posed the question this way: "Which of the following statements comes closest to your views on the origin and devlopment of human beings." This produced the 53% who chose "God created man exactly how Bible describes it.""


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
E&P Staff (letters@editorandpublisher.com)
_________________________
I was on the bank.

Top
#173541 - 03/08/06 03:47 PM Re: Creation Myths
goharley Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 03/27/02
Posts: 3188
Loc: U.S. Army
Would that be the same Bible created under, and endorsed by, King James? The same King James that was openly gay?
_________________________
Tent makers for Christie, 2016.

Top
#173542 - 03/08/06 04:51 PM Re: Creation Myths
Wailuku Offline
Returning Adult

Registered: 05/02/04
Posts: 384
Loc: Portland
Wouldn't that make it the Queen James version?

Top
#173543 - 03/09/06 12:03 PM Re: Creation Myths
Chuck E Offline
Three Time Spawner

Registered: 09/07/05
Posts: 1832
Loc: Kitsap Peninsula
Here's one for you from one of my fellow Blackfeet story tellers. I was told a variation of this story by my maternal Grandfather as he wanted me to know the stories and legends of our tribe. He thought it made as much sense as what he was taught by the Catholic teachers at the mission school on the rez:

http://www.montana.edu/~wwwbcc/legend.html
_________________________
"I didn't care what she didn't 'low--I would boogie-woogie anyhow" John Lee Hooker

Top
#173544 - 03/09/06 06:35 PM Re: Creation Myths
Salmo g. Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 13589
It's interesting that belief in the Biblical creation myth is inversely correlated to education. In churched families, kids learn the Biblical creation myth before they enter first grade. Kids aren't exposed to science in the public school system until about 5th grade, and probably don't begin to have a grasp of evolutionary theory until well into high school. I recall reading and hearing that what a person learns first and at an early age tends to stick with him or her and influences core personal values. I guess the survey kind of corroborates that.

Top
#173545 - 03/09/06 06:36 PM Re: Creation Myths
sardonicus Offline
Spawner

Registered: 07/26/05
Posts: 954
Loc: Spokane, Wa.
Best post I've seen all day Chuck E. Do you know the story of how first Woman chose death?

Top
#173546 - 03/09/06 08:24 PM Re: Creation Myths
Dave Vedder Offline
Reverend Tarpones

Registered: 10/09/02
Posts: 8379
Loc: West Duvall
As long as we are at it, lets talk about the virgin birth. Many cultures before christianity had a similar beleif. The Aztecs beleived thier ******* was impregnated by a ball of feathers.
_________________________
No huevos no pollo.

Top
#173547 - 03/09/06 08:25 PM Re: Creation Myths
Dave Vedder Offline
Reverend Tarpones

Registered: 10/09/02
Posts: 8379
Loc: West Duvall
Whoops. I bet that was edited becasue of the similarity to a certain female guide's choosen name.
_________________________
No huevos no pollo.

Top
#173548 - 03/10/06 12:38 PM Re: Creation Myths
Chuck E Offline
Three Time Spawner

Registered: 09/07/05
Posts: 1832
Loc: Kitsap Peninsula
sardonicus.......
Don't know that story.
_________________________
"I didn't care what she didn't 'low--I would boogie-woogie anyhow" John Lee Hooker

Top
#173549 - 03/10/06 05:58 PM Re: Creation Myths
sardonicus Offline
Spawner

Registered: 07/26/05
Posts: 954
Loc: Spokane, Wa.
Blackfoot story:
Woman chooses Death


Old Man decided that something was missing in the world he had made. He thought it would be a good thing to create a woman and a child. He didn't quite know how they should look, but he took some clay and mud and for four days tried out different shapes. At first he didn't like the looks of the beings he formed. On the fourth day, however, he shaped a woman into a pleasing form, round and nice, with everything in front and in back, above and below, just right.

"This is good", Old Man said. "this is the kind of woman I like to have in my world." Then he made a little child resembling the woman. "Well," said Old Man, "this is just what I wanted, but they are not alive yet."

Old Man covered them up for four days. On the first day he looked under the cover and saw a faint trembling. On the second day the figures could raise their heads. On the third day they moved their arms and legs. "Soon they will be ready."Said Old Man. And on the fourth day he looked underneath the cover and saw his figures crawling around. " They're ready now to walk upon my world." thought Old Man. He took the cover off and told the woman and child:
"Walk upright like human beings." The woman and the child stood up. They began to walk and they were perfect.

They followed Old Man down to the river, where he gave them the power of speech. At once the woman asked: "What is that state we are in, walking, moving, eating, breathing?" "That is life," said Old Man. "Before you were just lumps of mud. Now, you live."

"When we were lumps of mud, were we alive then?" asked the woman
.
"No," said Old Man, "you were not alive."

"What do you call the state we were in then?" asked the woman.

"It is called death," answered Old Man. "When you are not alive, then you are dead."

"Will we be alive always?" asked the woman. "Will we go on living forever, or will we be dead again at sometime?"
Old Man pondered. He said: "I didn't think about that at all. Lets decide it right now. Here os a buffalo chip. If it floats, then people will die and come back to life four days later."

"No," said the woman. "This buffalo chip will dissolve in the water. I'll throw in this stone. If it floats, we'll live forever and there will be no death. If it sinks, then we'll die." The woman didn't know anything yet, she had been walking on earth for only a few hours. Sje didn't know about stones and water, so she threw the stone into the river and it sank.

"You made a choice there," said Old Man. "Now nothing can be done about it. Now people will die."

Top
#173550 - 03/11/06 06:02 AM Re: Creation Myths
micropterus101 Offline
Spawner

Registered: 01/03/03
Posts: 802
Loc: Port Orchard
LOL, dang women screwed us in that one too. LOL smile

Top
#173551 - 03/11/06 10:19 PM Re: Creation Myths
blackmouth Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 11/05/04
Posts: 2572
Loc: right place/wrong time
cool Specific gravity, stones sink in water and float in mercury, specific gravity. slap
_________________________
"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter."
Winston Churchill

"So it goes." Kurt Vonnegut jr.

Top
#173552 - 03/12/06 10:35 AM Re: Creation Myths
sardonicus Offline
Spawner

Registered: 07/26/05
Posts: 954
Loc: Spokane, Wa.
I wonder, does Adam ever ponder what he started? Or perhaps it was that "black monolith" from the space odyssey.

Top
#173553 - 03/12/06 01:34 PM Re: Creation Myths
lupo Offline
Three Time Spawner

Registered: 09/16/02
Posts: 1501
Loc: seattle wa
dave- i believe that "ball of feathers" was quetzlequatle(sp?)- the feathered serpent
_________________________
"time is but the stream I go a-fishing in"- Henry David Thoreau

Top
#173554 - 03/12/06 01:57 PM Re: Creation Myths
sardonicus Offline
Spawner

Registered: 07/26/05
Posts: 954
Loc: Spokane, Wa.
Quet zal co atl: principal god of the Aztecs. Symbolized by the Feather Serpent.

Top

Search

Site Links
Home
Our Washington Fishing
Our Alaska Fishing
Reports
Rates
Contact Us
About Us
Recipes
Photos / Videos
Visit us on Facebook
Today's Birthdays
280ackimp, DAVEANNICK, nicksdad, redgussydog, reitersteelhead123, wallacewhaler123, zswoods
Recent Gallery Pix
hatchery steelhead
Hatchery Releases into the Pacific and Harvest
Who's Online
1 registered (Carcassman), 406 Guests and 2 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Newest Members
haydenslides, Scvette, Sunafresco, Trotter, MickLee
11504 Registered Users
Top Posters
Todd 27839
Dan S. 16958
Sol Duc 15727
The Moderator 13951
Salmo g. 13589
eyeFISH 12619
STRIKE ZONE 11969
Dogfish 10878
ParaLeaks 10363
Jerry Garcia 9013
Forum Stats
11504 Members
17 Forums
72985 Topics
825729 Posts

Max Online: 3937 @ 07/19/24 03:28 AM

Join the PP forums.

It's quick, easy, and always free!

Working for the fish and our future fishing opportunities:

The Wild Steelhead Coalition

The Photo & Video Gallery. Nearly 1200 images from our fishing trips! Tips, techniques, live weight calculator & more in the Fishing Resource Center. The time is now to get prime dates for 2018 Olympic Peninsula Winter Steelhead , don't miss out!.

| HOME | ALASKA FISHING | WASHINGTON FISHING | RIVER REPORTS | FORUMS | FISHING RESOURCE CENTER | CHARTER RATES | CONTACT US | WHAT ABOUT BOB? | PHOTO & VIDEO GALLERY | LEARN ABOUT THE FISH | RECIPES | SITE HELP & FAQ |