Ha Ha

I laughed about it all day !

I have discovered a new crisis, story and photos tomorrow.........stay tuned !

I can't wait....?

Too funny aunty

With all the life experiance I keep hearing about floating around in this forum, you should expect routine delays by now, will try to get pics tomorrow.

I try to reply to folks around here with their proper screen name, I feel it helps to maintain some semblance of civility, I slip up sometimes and return fire when someone calls me a name, but what do you think about trying to be polite.....if wrong ?

I guess you are right, I get called a neo-con often enough to not think you were being nice...

I had to look up neo-con on GOOGLE, I found the definition to be basicly "new conservative", I expected the definition to be worse than that, same thing with "bigot", definition isn't as bad as most of the people tossing the word around want it to be..............the best part is that I don't really fit either description, but how would the name callers know enough about a guy to staple a name to his forhead after only a brief chat online anyway...........

Then how can calling someone a bigot replace one whole side of a debate ?

See, right there I am shocked that you would say that, either you are just trying to be funny, or you have a very bad picture of me painted in your mind.

I do believe that every person should have the same rights, and I do believe that given equal rights different people will live different lives, I believe in helping people, and I believe helping people should be voluntary, I believe some people will be gay, and I don't think any rights should be taken away nor made specially for them.

I love and respect women, I have even heard of a few of them with brains <wink>, where someone was born or what color their skin is of no consequence to me...'specially since I was born in a stolen Country and my skin changes color depending upon the weather !

The definition I found didn't mention religion or race........the definition you found makes it a stonger and more negative word....

You are wrong to say that I painted the picture in your mind, interpretation is everything, and putting whatever spin helps your side of a debate on every word the other person says has a pronounced effect on the picture in your mind...I think being competitive in these debates makes it almost necessary to think of the other person as the "bad guy", I probably have even done it myself <wink>.

"Yes. It seems to describe just about every single one of us, doesn't it?"

I can almost agree with that. I definately have my fair share of intolerance, but I think many people on this board who have hate issues (including me) are irritated by those who use race or religion or politics to harm others. For instance, at first glance, if you were to meet me on the street, I fit your average WASP profile, and for the most part it's true. However, I hate (keyword) the way some Christians believe they have the right to punish because they feel superior. I hate racism, I'm sure I sound like a racist at times, I really only say it to get under other peoples skin because I know it bothers them. I don't hate musl;ims or hindus or jews and think they all should be able to practice however they want as long as they don't hurt anyone else. I don't hate republicans, my father is one, I dp hate republicans that want to opress the poor and eliminate the middle class, there are plenty of dems I hate as well, Hilary and dean, just to start, don't like kerry much either. So what it really boils down to, is that yes, we all hate, but hate for exlusion of others based solely on race, religion, creed, political affiliation or gender is wrong, always will be, and that is truly bigotry.

Sorry to hear fishing was poor, I'll save my gas money this weekend, thanks for the update. I am jealous you got to spend your day on a boat with a couple of true heroes though.

Good Lord, I guess if someone says the sun rises in the East, and can't be swayed otherwise, he is a bigot ?

Maybe your real definition of a bigot is anyone who doesn't think what you want them to think...

I do not think all women have to stay home regardless of financial need.

I have repeatedly clarified for you that I specificly think there are a LOT of women working w/ kids in daycare who don't need the money, they may have to rid themselves of a few luxury items to make it, but the quality of a kids life is worth just about any sacrafice in the material world.

If we can't agree on that, then why are we even talking ?

Here's a cherry to put on top...

In a PERFECT WORLD every parent would hold their offsprings wellbeing right up there with their own survival.

"In a PERFECT WORLD every parent would hold their offsprings wellbeing right up there with their own survival. "

Almost, in a perfect world, there would never be a concern as to where your next meal would come from, thus allowing people to raise their children according to the commandments brought forth by Org.

"Good Lord, I guess if someone says the sun rises in the East, and can't be swayed otherwise, he is a bigot"

No...just someone who doesn't confuse facts and opinion.

AuntyM, My vote weighs the exact same as yours......

Go be mad at the meth cooks and rapists, I'm not your enemy...

Alright AuntM...

The wife is booting me for a while so she can upload some pictures...you know women !

When I get back on here please have a list of my faults outlined, I will read with an open mind, but I will definately not lay down and accept if you twist my words and spin them to try and make me into the devil.....he is in jail in Iraq thanks to W.............


<I crack me up !>

I'm going to watch Capote, ha ha ha HAHA

Final score-- Aunty: 2 Org: you're in the red

I like the way you guys wiggle, nicely done...

Oregonian: Glad to see you keep posting. Things would get awful dull around here without someone stiring the pot. You are the best thing we have had since TK.

Org's full of it, his biggest crisis is trying to put M&M's in alphebetical irder

Then I trust the Worker's Unions have your full support in regards to demanding legislature guaranteeing minimum 4 weeks paid vacation for every employee? And guaranteed paternity leave for both parents? And guaranteed health care?

That is, of course, if you're genuinely sincere in wanting what's best for the parent/child relationship.

I do NOT support Worker's Unions, I think the individual worker aught to be able to make his/her own decisions/negotiations......

If you want 4 weeks off with pay and your boss won't go for it, then go find a different job.

Would you pay your electric bill all year and accept 4 weeks of no power happily ?

Maybe you are such a valuable employee that your boss will give you 6 weeks off with pay, the Union would be taking 2 weeks away from you......

By the way, taking a little time off work to drop a baby on the table is no replacement for a full time mom, not even close. IF a woman wants to have a kid, then plan ahead and do it right, if it's not worth doing right, then don't get pregnant.

You ideals only work if you start out at a point well down the wrong path, you probably see that now don't you ?

Stupid, again for gazillienth time, not everyone has the ability or choice to go down the path that you have, get over your fixation on how the lesser among should work harder like you. It's great that you are so successful, I get it. It simply does not apply to everyone and never will until we live in that "perfect world".

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Here it is again, as posted above, just read these few lines and answer the question without attacking, it is only a question....

I do NOT support Worker's Unions, I think the individual worker aught to be able to make his/her own decisions/negotiations......

If you want 4 weeks off with pay and your boss won't go for it, then go find a different job.

Would you pay your electric bill all year and accept 4 weeks of no power happily ?

Maybe you are such a valuable employee that your boss will give you 6 weeks off with pay, the Union would be taking 2 weeks away from you......

Read a history book about the industrializing of our country and the abuse of the workers that took place during the early years. You will find your answers there. And NO, the free market economy didn't save the workers from the abuses!

Unions built our middle class which in my opinion has always been one of the strengths of America. There are many many problems with unions but the basic premise of them give hope and protection to the middle class worker.

With lack of government intervention that is what the union was designed for. Exactly why their basic tenents are sound!

Unfortunately with power comes money and over time we get to see the abuses of power. No different or less nauseating then what we are currently seeing in the political scene.

Let us ALL hope we can get balance back in the political scene sooner rather than TOO late!

"Unfortunately with power comes money and over time we get to see the abuses of power."

Couldn't agree more, is this a segue for campaign reform??

Campaign reform is the most over due of all of our issues.

I personally believe a 3rd party with nothing to lose would be advantages to our system. Although many believe a 3rd party will open the door to many many parties and we will lose the idea of the majority?!

Actually, Krusty, if you do a little research you'll find that nearly every other modern industrialized nation guarantees their employees vacation. We do not. And you'll also learn that we, as a nation, produce less GDP on average per hour than other countries, even though we work longer hours, more days; even over Japan. We also spend more on medical, yet we are relatively sicker than other comparable nations.

And don't play that unemployment game. If we counted our unemployment the same way Europe does, our numbers would be relatively comparable.

"Campaign reform is the most over due of all of our issues."

I'm of the belief that it is at the heart of most of the challenges that I see facing our country currently. On one side, the solution doesn't look easy, on the other side, I think it is to blame for alot of corruption being exposed lately. It's a pretty ugly dilemma, I wish that could be put right up at the top of the agenda. I'll start counting right now in my head and let you know what number i'm at when the exec, house and senate actually decide to ween itself from corporate dollars.

"Crickets", kaji lama? that's what we called em in Nihon. Kaji lama. Crotch crickets.

I don't think there should be any minimum wage, nobody has to work for WalMart, I don't know how someone can accept a job and then complain about it, QUIT ! Work for someone who pays more, WalMart will pay whatever it takes to get a crew, if enough dummies will get up and go to work for a dollar a day, then that's it..........


We don't need the government involved in all this stuff, this is a free country, let the people do as they wish.

Is there anything about oil in here?

Naw. It's just all motion lotion palaver.