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#176903 - 07/18/06 10:51 AM Elehant takes a dump in salad bowl and not a thread of debate?
John Lee Hookum Offline
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Registered: 10/12/01
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HERE IS WHAT SOME OF THE MOST INTELLIGENT JEWS IN HISTORY HAVE SAID:


"Albert Einstein - "'I should much rather see reasonable agreement with the Arabs on the basis of living together in peace than the creation of a Jewish State. Apart from practical considerations, my awareness of the essential nature of Judaism resists the idea of a Jewish State,with borders, an army, and a measure of temporal power, no matter how modest. I am afraid of the inner damage Judaism will sustain'...

"Professor Erich Fromm, a noted Jewish writer and thinker, [stated]...'In general international law, the principle holds true that no citizen loses his property or his rights of citizenship; and the citizenship right is de facto a right to which the Arabs in Israel have much more legitimacy than the Jews. Just because the Arabs fled? Since when is that punishable by confiscation of property, and by being barred from returning to the land on which a people's forefathers have lived for generations? Thus, the claim of the Jews to the land of Israel cannot be a realistic claim. If all nations would suddenly claim territory in which their forefathers had lived two thousand years ago, this world would be a madhouse...I believe that, politically speaking, there is only one solution for Israel, namely, the unilateral acknowledgement of the obligation of the State towards the Arabs - not to use it as a bargaining point, but to acknowledge the complete moral obligation of the Israeli State to its former inhabitants of Palestine'...
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#176904 - 07/18/06 12:18 PM Re: Elehant takes a dump in salad bowl and not a thread of debate?
madcapmag Offline
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Registered: 05/22/06
Posts: 115
Loc: Issaquah WA
If they want the Jews to live in peace in a Palestinian state, whats wrong with Palestinians living peacefully in a Jewish state? I always thought Israel gave Palestinians a chance at living peacefully as Israeli citizens.
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#176905 - 07/18/06 01:23 PM Re: Elehant takes a dump in salad bowl and not a thread of debate?
lupo Offline
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Registered: 09/16/02
Posts: 1501
Loc: seattle wa
actually they tried to systematically exterminate the arabs like the nazis had done to the jews.....thats where the zionist phrase "a people without a land for a land without a people" came from, their desire to exterminate any arabs left in the land that was stolen to create israel......the country should have never been created and is probably the worst mistake humanity has made in modern history.....
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#176906 - 07/18/06 04:44 PM Re: Elehant takes a dump in salad bowl and not a thread of debate?
sardonicus Offline
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Registered: 07/26/05
Posts: 954
Loc: Spokane, Wa.
Next year in Jerusalem. The people of the Covenant have been saying that for 2000 years. When Babylon created the Diaspora and again when the Romans destroyed the temple, again. They literally became the Wandering Jews. For them to refuse to die as a culture is admirable from my seat. If the Arabs in Palestine had accepted them rather than try to annihilate them this whole mess would be a non-issue.You can blame the Israelis all you want but it doesn't change the fact the most glaring atrocities are committed by the followers of Allah. What really rots their shorts is they do it in the name of Allah.
We truck with the Wahabis and yet they hate our guts. The source of Osama, after all. They just like our money. Take it and use it to our hurt.

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#176907 - 07/18/06 04:49 PM Re: Elehant takes a dump in salad bowl and not a thread of debate?
Rory Bellows Offline
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Registered: 09/11/03
Posts: 1459
Loc: Third stone from the sun
Quote:
Originally posted by lupo:
israel......the country should have never been created and is probably the worst mistake humanity has made in modern history.....
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#176908 - 07/18/06 07:08 PM Re: Elehant takes a dump in salad bowl and not a thread of debate?
Ichtyoid Offline
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Registered: 03/17/06
Posts: 930
Loc: Olympia
Those guys down there in "The Holy land" have been slaughtering each other for MANY thousands of years. Before they called themselves Jews, before they called themselves Palestinians. Before Allah, before Jesus, before Jehovah, before Moses, before Abraham.
It won't stop at any bargaining table, in any UN assembly hall, or thru any street fighting, or by building or destroying any walls.
It is foolish for us to get into that quagmire of idiocy just as it eventually destroyed the Roman Empire through the barbaric religion it picked up there.
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The art of government is to make two-thirds of a nation pay all it possibly can pay for the benefit of the other third.--Voltaire

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#176909 - 07/19/06 08:34 PM Re: Elehant takes a dump in salad bowl and not a thread of debate?
lupo Offline
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Registered: 09/16/02
Posts: 1501
Loc: seattle wa
humans have been killiing eachother for thousands of years in almost every part of the globe.... but only gods chosen people got to remove hundreds of thousands from their homes based upon a claim to the land that they had left 2000 years ago..... and the right wing christians were their muscle to make sure that the jews were in control of jerusalem so that jesus could return
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