Funny, you are one of the first to jump on a presumed bias source. Even retired generals and war heroes can be allowed to be anti-semites in this country. One would think he didn't like Israel. Without them his head would be on a pike or he would be kissing the dirt while on his knees facing East.

Question: Which country in the Middle East had its Prime Minister announce to his staff not to worry about what the United States says because "We control America?"
Answer: Israel

If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck then.....

Nice to see someone not afraid to call a spade a spade in this paronoid and fearful climate created by the media. Really amazing to watch cattle be lead to slaughter for the benefit of a few.

Isn't that why cattle always go to slaughter? For the benefit of a few. A quite a few eaters of flesh and wearer of skins.

An Urgent Message on Israel
From the Desk of David Horowitz


As I write, Hezbollah rockets are raining down on Haifa in the latest attempt by the Islamic jihad to destroy Israel, the only democracy and non-Muslim state in the Middle East.

This war is the same war America is fighting in Iraq. The enemies are the same- Islamic terrorists backed by Syria and Iran- and the stakes are the same, whether Islamic totalitarianism or democracy will prevail.

Israel is capable of defending herself. But behind Syria and Iran are Russia and China, and therefore she has always depended on her ally, the United States. I'm writing to you today because just as the Fifth Column left in this country has attempted to sabotage America's war in Iraq, so America's support for Israel is being undermined in alarming ways, and I badly need your support to help me fight back.

Item one: As Israel came under attack last week, the producer of a talk show on a major Washington D.C. radio station declared that because the existence of Israel was bringing us to the brink of nuclear war, he could no longer support Israel's right to exist.

This producer is a left-wing Jew.


Item two: Around the same time, the website Daily Kos, which is a power in the Democratic Party and is spearheading the campaign to unseat Joe Lieberman, posted an item headed, "Imagine a world without Israel." The subhead read, "Or is that not allowed?" This kind of hate-Israel sentiment is common on the left, and the left's influence is growing, especially in the Democratic Party.

That is why I have called Israel "the canary in the mine." The Islamic terror war against the United States mirrors its terror war against Israel, just as the left's attack on Israel mirrors its attack on America.

Just as Islamists accuse America of being the root cause of 9/11, so the left accuses Israel, a victim of fifty years of Arab wars to destroy it, of being the aggressor in the Middle East.


Item three: The cover of The Washington Post's magazine last Sunday was headlined, "Is the Israel Lobby Too Powerful?" The idea that Bush-Cheney-Rice and Rumsfeld are manipulated by a bunch of second and third tier Jews in the Administration is a modern-day version of the notorious Protocols of the Elders of Zion which provided a text for Hitler and claimed that Jews ruled the world. But today it is entering the mainstream of liberal thought at an alarming speed.
Part of the reason this kind of anti-Israel, anti-American propaganda has traction is that people are woefully in the dark when it comes to the nature of the enemy we face.

Muslim and radical fanatics and haters of America and Israel operating in the universities and the press, along with their liberal fellow travelers, have been preaching the gospel that the Palestinians and the terrorists are actually victims of the imperialism of the West, and that their heinous acts against humanity are legitimate expressions of hopelessness and despair.

The David Horowitz Freedom Center is dedicated to combating these lies and defending America and Israel, the two pillars of Judaeo-Christian values and freedom in the world today.

Our website magazine, Frontpagemag.com, is devoted to reporting on the war at home and abroad, with a particular focus on the enemies of freedom in our own country who work day and night to undermine the war on terror. The Freedom Center has published hundreds of articles and dozens of books and pamphlets that confront these issues.

One of our publications is Big Lies: Demolishing the Myths of the Propaganda War Against Israel, which we have distributed to 300,000 individuals, including thousands of college students. It's short, readable, and packed with facts that give a true history of Israel and counteract the lies spread by the left.

As the Islamic war against the West intensifies it is urgent that our voice be heard. There is no comparable group that is so unflinching in its willingness to define what this war is about, so fearless in its determination to combat the appeasers and terrorist fellow-travelers in our own camp, and so tireless in its efforts to bring these truths to the widest possible audience.

It's just plain amazing how the radical right-wing, ultra-conservative dipsh!ts like Horowitz ALWAYS try to blame EVERYTHING on the democratic party!

In fact... he was quoted last week saying that his chronic case of E.D. was the direct result of a vast left-wing conspiracy.

Freakin'pathetic! But what's REALLY sad is that some people actually believe that stuff!

I'm trying to figure out what set you off Salty.
Ist sentence is accurate.
2nd sentence is accurate.
3rd sentence is part accurate part debatable.
4th and 5th sentences are a matter of fact.
Item two is accurate with the last sentence being a matter of opinion perhaps.
Item two para two; opinion
Item two para three. accurate.
Item three: part accurate and part opinion.
Tiresome. if the shoe fits wear it. You protesteth too much. Salty.
:p :p

It's so unfortunate we can't do the planet a favor and put all the Israelis with a chip on their shoulder, Hezbollah, Hamas, etc., and the radical right wing fundamentalist Christians on an island somewhere and let 'em kill each other and get it over with. That's my preachy Golden Rule thought for the day. The rest of us have productive things to do.

You know if we got rid of the right's and left's this board would be a boring place!

If there really was a God then she would have already done that...with her "chosen ones"...and let the rest of her children peacefully coexist in Eden.

No peaceful existing in the Star Trek Eden. Nasty place.

Aunty, reality usually resides 'twixt the extremes. But I can find little sympathy for the folks that have been making war on Israeli civilians for decades. If the whole Middle East has to go up in flames to put a stop to it, so be it. Maybe, just maybe the level headed ones in the Super power category can keep it from becoming a planetary trial by fire. I hope so.

Using the TK perspective on Arabs, Israel will never know security until all of planet Earth's one billion Muslims are killed. Since it's physically impossible to do that without killing at least as many interspersed non-Muslims and enraging most other ethnic and religious persuasions, one could conclude that Israel will never know a secure existance.

If the alternate belief that many or most Muslims don't care one way or the other about Israel is true, or wouldn't if they didn't associate Israel with the practice of state sponsored terrorism against Palestinians, then Israel could conceivably achieve a comfortable degree of security by working as hard at achieving for the moderate Palestinians what they wish to achieve for themselves - and of course, the same applies to the Palestinians. However, in the years I've observed the situation, it's been mostly a one way street, going Israel's direction. i.e., Israel's recent actions have included shooting missles at suspected terrorist hideouts that are known to be inhabited by non-combatant women and children. Call it collatoral damage, but it's what keeps from winning the hearts and minds of Arabs that would otherwise be more than willing to be moderate in their views.

Aunty is correct that some Arab group is always going to start stuff with Israel, whether Israel appears to be moderating or not. I doubt that can be eliminated any time soon. But the only way it can be reduced is for Israel, and unfortunately the U.S. and Britain, to address the root causes of Arab hostility toward Israel - the lost lands and resources of Palestinians. Doing that will not eliminate Arab hostility because it rooted more deeply for extremists, but that's the primary factor motivating most Arab hostility toward Israel. And altho difficult, and since it's the only thing that's gonna' reduce Arab hatred of Israel (and the US and Britain), it's gotta' be easier than the impossible alternatives they've been trying.

As for the Horowitz article, I suppose he didn't notice the Israeli missles (made in USA) raining down in civilian occupied and Hezbollah-controlled Beruit. And the least he could do as a full fledged member of Bush's flock of sheep is acknowledge the two newest democracies in the Middle East, created at substantial US lives and expense. Talk about somebody being a tool.

Maybe we need to send some proselytizing, hairy chested Christians over there to save those Islamic souls. Might keep them busy one way or another. Real Crusaders, and Knights Templar.

A good article by David Brooks in this morning's paper. Pretty well reasoned analysis that moderate Arabs aren't going to be able to rein in the radicals anytime well into the foreseeable future.

But they could at least try. Their silence is deafening.

I have been thinking about this subject for a long while so let me outline my position , FWIW.

I am predisposed to support Israel for exactly the reasons that Aunty outlines. The history of persecution, bias, and genocide is enough to make anyone acknoledge that they have a right to exist and a right to exist in peace.

However.... their current actions, which are literally a War against Lebannon cause my support to waver. Attacking airports, roads, bridges, and Army barracks seems to fulfill the definition of warlike actions. Lebannon, per se, is not an enemy of Israel, yet they are having death and destruction rained on them as though they were. I understand the arguement that this started with Hezbollah taking the 2 soldiers. However, there have been so many actions and reactions from either side I believe the start is buried in history somewhere. Isn't it ironic that a Nation State founded to provide a peaceful haven from worldwide persecution, committs persecution in the name of security? Painting with a wide brush and declaring that Hezbollah is akin to Al Quaeda in our War on Terror is just a talking point. I have not seen any credible evidence that makes them as a threat to us.

Having said all that, I sure the he*l don't know what to do. All I know is that this staunch supporter of Israel finds his conviction wavering.

Aunty, I agree conceptually with your point.

Your math, on the other hand, is suspect. 3149 in a month is 100 Iraqi's per DAY. We have truly started a forest fire over there, will we be able to put it out before it consumes those folks?