I saw a guy take a wild fish off the kalama today is this legal? Can't find anything in regs. I would turn them loose anyways just curious if he was legal.
Glow

The Kalama is all wild steelhead release!and if you are against this sort of behavior,next time report them!

Tell it like it izzzzz Chrome Trophy

Just in case -always get as much info as possible and "bar-be-que" them if your hunches were right!
Good Fishing, Darin

There is nowhere in the columbia or any of it's tributaries where it is legal to keep a wild steelhead. There is no place on the planet where it should be legal to kill a wild steelhead

I didn't drive 2 hours to play cops and robbers. I drove that far to fish.

Wrong info so I removed it.Sorry guys Release all native stealhead

That is silly not to act. Would you let a woman go if you saw a rape in progress just because you happen to be on vacation or fishing???? Even if the WDFW new about this law-breaking after the fact it might do some good. Well, an individual like that goes unreported you might as well be letting a "fish-rape" occur. That's what folks like that are doing. If the WDFW new of this incident don't you think they would be "out there" on that stretch of river a little more -possibly!!!! Kinda like speeders being nailed by traffic cops in school zones? Come on. Even reporting violators quite possibly would do us all a favor. I'm sick and tired of people complaining and whining about situations and not taking even a first step in action in resolving matters. You and others like you I suspect might be the kind of folks who complain about the people in our elected office even though you didn't vote or pay attention to whom is running either! I'm always amazed how many people don't take action in any case were a crime occurs. It ain't my job to come to somebody's first aid either, but I work in mountain rescue and have some training so when I come across someone who needs help I assist until better more qualified help arrives. I would do this in any case -EVEN if I was fishing or on vacation! Tell me, do you see that much of these kinds of violations that it would be a lot of work for you to report -everytime your out on the river???? Then, if that's the case we really do have a severe problem out there and sombody's got to do someting about it. I guess it won't be you. Remember the ol' saying by Kennedy, "it's not what your country can do for you, it's what you can do for your country!" It takes five precious minutes of your valuable time to call someone on that. -Sorry for the personal attack but think about it next time your out there.....
Good Fishing, Darin
By the way, the last poster spelled "Tota-ll-y" incorrect.....

Steelnerves,
I admit my spelling just plain sucks and you will most likely catch me again.But im not to bad for a dexlectic ( yea spelling probably wrong ). And I have noticed im not the only one here that cant spell real well.

DUROBOAT15

If you believe that you can legally keep a wild steelhead (no clipped adipose fin) from June 1 thru March 31 on the Cowlitz, you better start saving your money to pay your fines!

Apparently you are misreading the regs on page 62. The Cowlitz has been wild release for well over 5 years on steelhead. You are (or may be) confusing "trout" with steelhead, because the dams still receive plans of "trout". The rules may sound a little ambiguous, but that will not win you anything in court!

If you read what is stated on page 15 of the regs, you will see that under "statewide Definitions"; Wild steelhead, chinook, coho, or cutthroat may not be kept; only hatchery designated species may be kelp. Hatchery fish are identified by missing adipose or ventral fins and a healed scar in the location of the missing fin."

It's what listed on page 15 that counts!

Good luck if you think you can beat it in the courts!

Cowlitzfisherman

CFM,
Thanks for pointing that out . I was just looking at page 62 and by the way its stated it looked like it was ok. But I dont keep nates anyway.
Sorry RA3 I have been corrected!!

Steelnerves,

Must be tough being you. Spending all that time playing cop, chasing speeders, making citizen arrests of jaywalkers, breaking up domestic arguements, counseling mothers on how to discipline their kids, giving classes on reading and understanding the 130 pages of fishing regualtions... etc. How do you find time to fish?

Glowball did the right thing. He wasn't sure about the regs so he kept his opinions to himself and asked here. Next time he will probably make the call.

Last poster,

We all can be Spider Man right??? -Kidding! Actually I'd rather be Super-Fly! I'm not talking about vigilantism here. Jay walking and speeding are poor example and analogy here as compared to more "personally" serious crimes -(ie; murder, rape, robbery, yes to me--stealing fish etc. -maybe even reckless driving or DUI driving) . In those cases ---hell I'm not going to tell someone if I can help it!!!!! We as good fishermen/folk who respect the boundaries of the rules owe it to ourselves and other good folk to stand up and take no s$#t -if we can help it! Especially when people cross the lines -blatently! Just good common descency to act sometimes when you pissed/upset about something that seams worthwhile or important. If you have the chance to report something why not? In this particular case he may not have been in a position to note who was violating specifically. ---But, like I was saying, if you ATLEAST tell an authority AT SOME POINT "after-the-fact" it can have effects on how and why they patrol the area in the future -Or quite possibly could yield some other positive results by acting at a minimum. Much like sharing it here on this forum may have some results.....
Good Fishing, Darin

Last poster,

We all can be Spider Man right??? -Kidding! Actually I'd rather be Super-Fly! I'm not talking about vigilantism here. Jay walking and speeding are poor example and analogy here as compared to more "personally" serious crimes -(ie; murder, rape, robbery, yes to me--stealing fish etc. -maybe even reckless driving or DUI driving) . In those cases ---hell I'm not going to tell someone if I can help it!!!!! We as good fishermen/folk who respect the boundaries of the rules owe it to ourselves and other good folk to stand up and take no s$#t -if we can help it! Especially when people cross the lines -blatently! Just good common descency to act sometimes when you pissed/upset about something that seams worthwhile or important. If you have the chance to report something why not? In this particular case he may not have been in a position to note who was violating specifically. ---But, like I was saying, if you ATLEAST tell an authority AT SOME POINT "after-the-fact" it can have effects on how and why they patrol the area in the future -Or quite possibly could yield some other positive results by acting at a minimum. Much like sharing it here on this forum may have some results.....
Good Fishing, Darin

ET,

We all can be Spider Man right??? -Kidding! Actually I'd rather be Super-Fly! I'm not talking about vigilantism here. Jay walking and speeding are poor examples and analogy here as compared to more "personally" serious crimes -(ie; murder, rape, robbery, yes to me--stealing fish etc. -maybe even reckless driving or DUI driving) . In those cases ---hell I'm not going to tell someone if I can help it!!!!! We as good fishermen/folk who respect the boundaries of the rules owe it to ourselves and other good folk to stand up and take no s$#t -if we can help it! Especially when people cross the lines -blatently! Just good common descency to act sometimes when you pissed/upset about something that seams worthwhile or important. If you have the chance to report something why not? In this particular case he may not have been in a position to note who was violating specifically. ---But, like I was saying, if you ATLEAST tell an authority AT SOME POINT "after-the-fact" it can have effects on how and why they patrol the area in the future -Or quite possibly could yield some other positive results by acting at a minimum. Much like sharing it here on this forum may have some results.....
Good Fishing, Darin
By, the way, hooked up on a 10 lb steelie hen this morning on the fly!

Geez never knew that by not being a superhero I would turn into a piece of crud. Comparing rape with taking home a fish that I didn't know was illegal is kinda stupid. I was just curious. After all this I looked harder in the regs and in the freshwater rules section it states that unless otherwise noted all wild steelhead must be released. The accused scumbag could very well be under the impression as was I that he was allowed to keep nates. Now that I know I will try and prevent someone from BONKING a nate.

So very sorry I didn't have my cape with me the other day. Won't let it happen again.

Glow

Glowball,

I think you did just fine...not that you need me or anyone else to tell you that.

Jeez, we've had a week long multi-page thread about people going off half-cocked when they didn't know the rules...it didn't make sense then, and it still doesn't make sense to do so.

I for one make durn sure that I know the rules on rivers I fish...but wild fish retention is a bit different, especially since I wouldn't keep one either way, legal or not.

I personally think that it's a good idea to let people in on the secret if they are thinking about retaining a nate, especially in non-retention areas...but there's no sense in making an ass of yourself when you do it.

Now you know the rule on the Kalama, so next time, god forbid there is a next time, some dumb@ss bonks a nate there, you can choose how you'll deal with him or her, or not.

How was the fishing?

Fish on...

Todd

Glowball, Todd,

Well, I didn't mean it that serious, I was making an analogy there! Not an equal one per-se! Actually, I was making a return statement example to the other poster who was saying I am busy reporting violators of ALL sorts.... -Some are definitely not worth our time or efforts.- The jay walker example is no harm to me/or you unlike a abusive fisherman bending the rules......
Keep the cape flying!
Good Fishing, Darin