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#190003 - 03/10/03 02:04 PM If we loose the war...
Kid Sauk Offline
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Registered: 05/17/01
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Like we'd ever lose rolleyes

Just wanted to add a little humor during a difficult time.
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#190004 - 03/10/03 02:25 PM Re: If we loose the war...
troller Offline
Spawner

Registered: 07/11/02
Posts: 608
Loc: Renton , WA
I will never live to see it. I would die fighting before I would let it happen.

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#190005 - 03/10/03 08:12 PM Re: If we loose the war...
Fishmaster2003 Offline
Parr

Registered: 01/07/03
Posts: 48
Loc: everett
i sure as hell would fight to the death before I see something like that, no way in hell

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#190006 - 03/10/03 09:20 PM Re: If we loose the war...
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Registered: 02/12/03
Posts: 368
Loc: W. WA
Don't worry. They showed a clip of Sadam swimming on History Channel and he can't swim laugh
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#190007 - 03/10/03 09:47 PM Re: If we loose the war...
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Registered: 01/24/03
Posts: 254
Loc: Renton WA
Heard a clip on the news this morning...seems we have been holding exercises in Kuwait and they look pretty realistic, A little to realistic for the Iraqis right across the border...they put up the white flag and surrenderd, We could not keep them and they got sent back across the border. beathead Them boys are just itchen' to surrender...I guess its no big suprise after last time. Surrender=get food. How pathetic
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#190008 - 03/10/03 09:53 PM Re: If we loose the war...
Vic Offline
Spawner

Registered: 12/05/00
Posts: 553
Loc: Everett, Wa, USA
Johnny:

They saw us practicing and thought they would practice too.

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#190009 - 03/10/03 10:28 PM Re: If we loose the war...
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Registered: 06/04/02
Posts: 424
Loc: marysville
Why has no one considered invading the U.S.A since the british? becouse too many good americans own guns. The japanese researched the idea after they were so succesful in china and dropped the idea when they did their dead and wounded projections. remember that the average person in china was not allowed to own guns. no guns get invaded . got guns don't get invaded. really simple. shoot
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#190010 - 03/10/03 10:53 PM Re: If we loose the war...
STIHLHEAD Offline
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Registered: 02/12/03
Posts: 368
Loc: W. WA
Another good reason to join the NRA wink
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#190011 - 03/11/03 12:41 AM Re: If we loose the war...
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Sound's good to me starcraft. beer
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#190012 - 03/11/03 01:15 AM Re: If we loose the war...
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Loc: Renton WA
A really good buddy of mine was an MP overthere the first time. Said there were so many prisoners it boggled the mind, The US was totaly unprepared for their army to surrender in the numbers that did. He talked about loading up greyhound type buses with prisoners in convoys of twenty or thirty buses, there was supposed to be 4 MPs on every bus, one driver and three gaurds. When the buses would get to the camps they would usually have 1 or 2 MPs for the whole convoy, One driving the front bus and maybe, if they had enough manpower, one driving the rear bus. The prisoners were so desperate for food and everything else, that their only mission was to be under the command of the US.
I remember a doonsbury cartoon with an Iraqi platoon surrenduring to our Marines, and the Iraqi seargent saying " we surrender, can I eat you chapstick?"

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#190013 - 03/11/03 09:47 AM Re: If we loose the war...
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Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 2380
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eek Starcraft and Stihlhead - I know what you mean - That must be the reason that Canada, Australia, & New Zealand have never been invaded as well. Oh wait, they have strict gun control and an unarmed citizenry. Maybe it has more to do with vast land distances or the fact that the only way to approach them is over long distances of water. Try again you guys.
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#190014 - 03/11/03 10:16 AM Re: If we loose the war...
Dave D Offline
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This will be a famous photo for the War.

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#190015 - 03/11/03 09:37 PM Re: If we loose the war...
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Registered: 03/11/03
Posts: 2
Loc: Victoria
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#190016 - 03/11/03 11:26 PM Re: If we loose the war...
Tabfry Offline
Smolt

Registered: 02/28/03
Posts: 88
Loc: Monroe
Heard that some Iraqi troops are dressing as U.S./ally troops and moving in on civilians. No wonder that they hate us so much!

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#190017 - 03/12/03 11:42 AM Re: If we loose the war...
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Registered: 10/03/00
Posts: 550
Loc: land of sun
Eddie,

Canada may not be big on hand guns, but they have plenty of rifles and shotguns up there. To say they are unarmed is ridiculous. I think a scoped 300 win mag is a better deterrent (for foreign intruders) than a 38 spl. so I doubt the handgun control up there has any lessening effect on them as an armed civilization. Hunting arms are permitted in New Z. and Australia as well. Curious, are you a closet gun control advocate?

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#190018 - 03/12/03 03:19 PM Re: If we loose the war...
eddie Offline
Carcass

Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 2380
Loc: Valencia, Negros Oriental, Phi...
Predator Dawg - Not much closet to it. I have been a member of Handgun Control Inc. and wish we had strict gun control here. However, having said that, I am not looking to get involved in another round of bashing on my gun control beliefs. And, I am also realistic enough to understand that gun control in the United States will not work - far too many guns, far too many users. I do rise to the bait however, when I hear that the fact that we have a lot of guns somehow protects us from foreign invasion or our own government. I do not believe it (and I did live in New Zealand for five years - I do know how many guns there are - and it equates to a very small percentage of the population). Having said all this - if the members of this board want to argue the merits/demerits of gun control - bring it on. I doubt very much that anyone will convince me I am wrong. I also doubt very much that I will convince anyone that I am right. By the way, when I talk of gun control, I am really referring to hand guns and the Assault style of rifles.
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#190019 - 03/12/03 03:41 PM Re: If we loose the war...
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Registered: 03/07/00
Posts: 2955
Loc: Lynnwood, WA
I'm not a gun control advocate, but I do think that the theory as to why we haven't been invaded is because our citizens are so well armed is preposterous.

Imagine a well trained division of invading soldiers, expert in urban warfare tactics, encountering a group of civilians who happened to break out their deer rifles and 9mm "self-protection" pistols. At least 90% of whom have never fired at a human target, much less killed anyone. Somehow I don't think the battle would bode well for the citizens.

IMHO, the real reason we haven't been invaded has already been expressed above. It has much more to do with sheer logistics, and our MILITARY defense capabilities, than a bunch of regular folks unloadin' the old double barrel.
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#190020 - 03/12/03 05:23 PM Re: If we loose the war...
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Registered: 06/14/00
Posts: 1828
Loc: Toledo, Washington
4Salt

You may be right, but I would pity the poor SB that tried to take over the folks who live outside of the big cities. City folks may be one thing, but the people who live outside of the big cities in the sticks, are a whole different story. Most of the guys down our way all have weapons and are quite capable of putting 4 out of 5 rounds into a nickel at 100 yards or better. Most of them have at lease 4 or five riffles that will most likely out shoot 90% of most second world military weapons. Yes, military weapons can shoot numerous bullets at a time, but it only takes one bullet to kill you! You are also right that the "battle" would not bold well for the citizens who depend on the police or others to "protect" them. But leave those big cities, and it's a whole different world out there.

Hell, once you leave the big cities, people don't have any fear at all about shooting another human being to death either. If you think that I am wrong, just try reading one of the local rural newspapers sometime.

One more hidden factor that most other nations know and fear; once you have tasted what freedom is, it's next to imposable to ever take it away from someone.

IMHO, there are several real reasons why our nation hasn't been attacked yet by other armys or nations. 1) We are the only supper power left in the world. 2) No other nation has a Military or the resources that can take on a supper power. 3) We are the most heavily civilian armed force in the entire would. 4) No other nation has the technology or the ability to use it like the U.S. has.

I can go on, but I think you get the message! Never ever underestimate the power or the threat that 200 million educated armed civilian people may have. That's why those chicken $hits used airplanes to attack America... They were to chicken to go one to one!




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#190021 - 03/12/03 09:02 PM Re: If we loose the war...
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Registered: 01/29/02
Posts: 140
Loc: whatcom county
All the city boys who call us tarheels and rednecks because we have guns, would be kissing our a$$es if someone ever tried to come and take this nation from us.
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#190022 - 03/12/03 09:36 PM Re: If we loose the war...
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Fry

Registered: 01/05/03
Posts: 22
Loc: Winston, Oregon
Love that picture! Is anyone else boycotting French products?

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