If that's the truth...

...then the truth really is 'out there'.

All right 4Salt


All right 4Salt

Now you really got me mad! I knew this would draw you out and I have had it with you; I am challenging you to a dull!

1) Since it's my dull, I make the rules!
2) The choice of weapons will be size 2 rubber bands for you
3) Because I am much older then you, I get to use the 7x1/8 size "Big Bands"
4) All rubber bands must be made of pure rubber (no junky rubber allowed)
5) The place will be "on the water" at an undisclosed location.
6) The time will be "when I see you", and not one minute later.
7) You will also be required to be blindfolded
8) I will not be required to be blindfolded because my eyes are not as good as they used to be.
9) Spectators must be members of our board (no exceptions, except maybe CNN)
10) The winner of the dull must publicly admit his defeat on our board.
11) You may bring "chappy" along as your "rubber bearer".
12) My barer may be Mirco or Dan S.

Warning! Before you except my challenge, I must first warn you that I used to be the "best" shooter in my class (5 shoots in dime at 100 yards). I am a retired rubber band champion and hold 2 degrees in fast band shooting. I also was second runner up in the world class "fast shooter" in the 2001 -2002 national rubber band championships. I currently am a holder of a first degree black rubber belt. I also was champion in the "one handed" rubber band national championships in 1999. If you loose, you will be force to donate $1000 dollars to our board. If I loose, I will hand over my black rubber belt and 1000 of my best rubbers to you.

PS, take your time when you put your reply together, because the whole board is watching and waiting to hear what it is!


Cowlitzfisherman

Hee hee... 'a dull'

Hee hee

I'm not sure I want to see either Dan S. or Mircro bare.

Awww....c'mon man. I've been lookin' for a reason to get nekked for a while now.

Cowlitzfisheman,

I hereby accept!

I would be honored to engage in a "dull" with you! You are a worthy adversary, even if you are much older than me! :p

The only problem is, my stash of rubbers is nil. (especially the black ones, as I've always preferred clear. )

Perhaps FOX news would be better suited to cover the event as well. (You know, the whole liberal media thing and all...)

Micropterus101 would make an excellent choice for your "corner man." Dan S, I fear might be a little too intelligent and free-thinking to properly execute the task though!

I too used to be a "fast shooter" but fortunately, age and experience have helped greatly!

$1000 dollars??? There goes that operation I was contemplating...

If this board is truly watching and waiting to hear my response (which I highly doubt) then they collectively have less of a life than I do!

And finally CFM, if I were to choose support personell from the board, it would be people like Todd, Salmo g, goharley, Dan S, stlhdh2o and many others too numerous to name. Not because we'd be the fastest, but hopefully, when all was said and done, we'd be the most accurate. (that was a metaphor, just in case you were wondering)

p.s. I have to get some actual work done at some point today, so no more long-winded posts from me. (as a sigh of relief is heard all over the Puget Sound region)

Thank you Aunty!

Cowlitzfisherman

Could I officiate instead? My pay will be a cut of the spoils, such that they are.

I'd also suggest taking shots of Bacardi 151 between rounds, chasing them with Schmidt (this is a fishing board, after all).

We could even parlay it into a little gambling venture...anyone fancy themselves a bookie?

Five to one 4Salt spills the Schmiddy first...seven to four on CFM for the win...unless it goes more than seven rounds, where it's even until round 10, where 4Salt's ten shots of 151 would likely improve his aim, while CFM's ten shots would likely increase his already poor eyesight. Three to one for 4Salt after ten rounds.

Who wants to run the concessions?

Fish on...

Todd.

Oh, yeah...by the way...

I like movies, and I listen to my share of music, but if celebrities starting pushing wild steelhead release mass marking of hatchery fish, I still wouldn't be too impressed.

When it comes to anything other than their chosen profession, they can all take a flying leap as far as I'm concerned.

That might be a little too harsh...perhaps I should say that their opinion doesn't matter any more than anyone else's with their background and education. I guess that means it wouldn' matter much at all...oh, well.

Fish on...

Todd.

When the big "dull" is over you guys can sit around and show off all your data to prove to each other that George Bush stole the election and Al Gore is really the president....You remember him? The inventor of the internet??? Isn't Al against hatcheries too? I think GW invented hatcheries as a plot to screw over the fly fishermen...

Damn! you guys have me in tears over hear.
duel or dull it doesnt matter I am in! I dont think It would be a good idea for me to show up bare though, It would not be fair to either side! I would be happy to be the bearer of such high tech weapons of mass destuction such as rubber bands though. I'll put all my money on cowlitz as 4salts rubber bands will probably break (too much salt).

Inteligence? Hmmm?

The smart people should be able put together the facts and see the big picture. It seems that at least 70% of the people are inteligent. The rest are led by there nose by communist anti-american propaganda.

Americans for America, not Americans for dictators or, France, Germany, Russia. Besides the unstability, weapons, and humanitarian issues in Iraq. there was some really hokie stuff going on in the U.N that would very negativly effect Americas power in world economics. Politics suck but politics exist. Our invasion of Iraq is also heading off the conspiracy against us by certain members of the U.N . There is more to a book than its cover! and yes a large part of it involves oil.
Its something you dont hear to much about in the media yet but if your listening youll see what I am talking about. The politics are being played right now.

Oh yeah? Well, let's hear you say that while yer nekked, micro.

I'm not getting bare anywhere near a couple dudes with rubber bands. I can just see where THAT would lead.....yow!

Yas need to research Einstein... Books not the net, the net is full of misinterpretations and lies.

My question: Did he make the nuke?

I've seen a few ignorant answers so far.

But for all of you anti-war people, I still have NOT heard a single good excuse as to why we shouldnt be there.

1) They attacked us, by funding the conspirators of 9/11. Is that really hard for you to understand?

2) Oil? HA! You might want to see the exact date the sanctions were put on... But I'll put a ballpark estimate at 12 years.

3) They dont want us there? Well, youre right! Houssein doesnt! But what about his people? The people who now see an eminent freedom approaching, running out and killing Iraqi soldiers. They DONT want to be freed huh?

Come on guys I'm in the mood. Send some more arguments.

BBVD - All right, I'll bite. I am against this war, don't know if I have any excuses, but I do have some reasons. Before I give them out however, one thing needs to be said - Whether or not I post something on Piscatorial Pursuits, whether I take to the streets protesting or waving flags in a Support the Troops rally, it really does not matter and it certainly will not influence the course of this war. Events have been set in motion and will continue to their logical end. My crystal ball is foggy on what that logical end is, I do believe a US military victory will be part of the picture. I wish that this was the cakewalk that was presented to us at the beginning. But one thing that I should have remembered. If you kick the door down on your neighbors house and go in without invitation, bad things may happen. Enough of that, here are my reasons:

1. There are greater threats to the US Security than Iraq. In my belief and in the order that I prioritize them is:

Al Queda or other terrorist groups that I have not heard of yet.
North Korea
Iran
Pakistan
The state of our economy and the incredibly high deficits we are beginning to run up.
Hatchery fish (just kidding)
Iraq

I believe that the United States is like any other entity be it business or government. We need to prioritize and deploy limited resources. I believe we have the wrong priority and the fact that we are deploying resources to Iraq, leaves us less secure.

2. I am very concerned the way we started this war. If we can step into the shoes of the Iraqi citizens (I don't know if I've got nearly the knowledge to do this!), one thing becomes clear. We have in fact pulled a Pearl Harbor on them. I was not alive then, but in talking with my folks and reading history, the attack on Pearl Harbor inspired significant resolve and drive in the American people. If only 10% of the Iraqi people feel this way, we are in for a long and difficult war and/or peace. This supports point #1 - I don't think we have prioritized properly.

I've got to get some breakfast and go to work. Yes, I'm against this war, yes, I love to fish, yes, I work. BBVD, I'm fairly certain that no one who disagrees with me will change their minds based on what I've written. All I can hope for is maybe some reasoned thought and reflection.

#1. Actually, there is no solid evidence that Iraq was involved with the 9/11 debacle in any way. However, there is absolute proof that some of our "allies" (Qatar) have harbored and facilitated the escape of known al Queda lieutenants.

#2. I'm admittingly too ignorant to have a real opinion on the oil issue. But I do find it interesting that Halliburton was awarded the contract for extinguishing the oil well fires by the Army without soliciting bids by any other companies. I'm sure the fact that Cheney was once CEO had nothing to do with it.

#3. According to several news releases yesterday, the Iraqi people shouted anti-American chants and slogans all-the-while taking food from the humanitarian relief trucks we delivered. Additionally, the main opposition in Iraq has stated that it's nice what we're doing, but don't hesitate to leave once Saddam is dead (paraphrased for brevity). They don't want us sticking around. Geez, at least mercenaries are paid; where does that put us?


I'm not necessarily anti-war, but I'm surely pro-peace.

Removing Saddam Heussein from power is like having rotten teeth extracted. You are not going to negotiate them out, or sanction them out. You have to call on a professional to come in and forcibly remove them with the tools designed to get the job done efficiently. The dentist isn't going to smash me in the mouth with a hammer and remove all my teeth, just the bad ones. Then he's going to pull his hands out of my mouth and let me heal. That's what it sounds like we're doing over there. I don't like going to the dentist as much as the next guy. I don't like war either, but sometimes you don't have much of a choice. Pull 'em out before they infect the ones around them.

Enough is enough!!


Now I am really mad!

While all you guys were arguing about Einstein, and worrying about "bearing" yourself, some no good tree hugging peace loving war protester broke into my bunker of RBOMD (Rubber Bans of Mass Destruction). Every single one had been frayed! After calling in the inspectors, traces of Salt were discovered! I wonder who would want to do something so evil.

The inspectors are currently analyzing the text that was written on the bunker doors. Someone left an unidentifiable message which was sprayed out in large red lettering saying "metaphor".

The inspectors believe it to be some form of secret code that encourages the terrorist who have not yet come out of there closet, to now revolt against us "hardcore" rubber band fighters! Little do they know that we had been preparing for such a terrorist attack, and that we have already taken this into our dulling strategies plan.

Because of the collateral damage concerns of the many, we are now adjusting as we go. Our plan is flexible and we had planned adjustments into my dull challenge from the very beginning. The new changes are; both Dan and Mirco will be allowed to ware shorts. In all fairness, 4Salt and his team can also where shorts. But if we allow 4Salt and his team to ware shorts, another change will have to be triggered!

All spectators now must ware dark sunglasses because of the blinding glare from 4Salts team's legs. If we don't do this, the spectators will surely think that 4Salt and his "bright minded team" are all waving "white flags". Our team is very concern about some of 4Salts "bearers".

Intelligence has it that one of 4Salts proposed bearers (Salmo G) has been seen using a small rubber raft on many of the streams (possible mining). This could give 4Salt a very unfair advantage! Measures have now been taken to commandeer Salmo's rubber duck raft and use it for backup rubber bands supplies.

Rumor has it that 4Salt has set rolls of rubber bands on fire at several different dulling locations (boat ramps). Tactic like this are against all rubber band dulling ethics and if proven to be true, they'll be prosecuted to the fullest by the world Rubber Band Council (RBC).

The dull is coming closer and to an end. Fresh supplies of new bands are on the way, and it looks like 4Salt tactics have failed...make no mistake, we will prevail!!

4Salt has already started a massive propaganda campaign, but he and his bearers will not succeed.

I will keep everyone updated as new information or intelligence arrives.


Cowlitzfisherman

Cowfisherman-

It is starting to sound like you are "stretching" the truth a little here. 4Salt and his "band" of dull fighters are incapable of such acts.

Someone broke into my armory too Cowlitz! Hmmmm, An insidious conspiracy perhaps? Why, if I didn't know better, I'd think it was probably the work of the evil WDFW. After all they are your sworn enemy, and the instigator of all that is wrong in your life. (besides me that is)

I'm thinkin' of changin' my moniker to 4Pepper. Very few seem to get the hidden "4Salt" meaning.

Truth be told, it's actually an ancient Babylonian sandscrit term meaning: "persecutor of outspoken retired fishing guides on internet bulletin boards."


How did this turn into another war thread by the way? I thought it's main purpose was to discredit and ridicule the opinion of anyone who wasn't a high-ranking member of the Bush administration? Especially those in the public spotlight?


BBVD - Ignorance concerning Einstein? You are all of about what, 14 years of age? Please elighten us about the famous physicist. Perhaps you could explain, in layman's terms so us ignorants can understand, the Special theory of Relativity. Without copy/pasting the information from another source like the article you tried to pass off as your own in your initial post. This one

Cowlitz my friend, I thought we smoked the peace pipe a week or so ago? If you were just kidding with the Einstein thing, then I fell for the bait big-time. Remember your blood pressure. There are FAR MORE IMPORTANT battles to be fought than these petty squabbles with me here. Once again, PEACE.

4Salt

My intelligence source is top secret! But I can tell you this; they did come from the same source of intelligence that gave me the information concerning the bunkers, inspectors, and the scoop about Einstein.

Dan got it, and now I hope you got it!!

Maybe there is a spy among us! Maybe it is WDFW, NMFS, or yes, even Tacoma Power!!

4Salt, we did smoke the peace pipe. All this was meant to do was to break up the tension of the war threads between our members. What is wrong with trying to do that? You really need to get a little moor humor.