#213464 - 10/03/03 01:00 AM
Washougal Snaggers Busted
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Juvenile at Sea
Registered: 01/29/03
Posts: 195
Loc: Olympia
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Saw this on another B & B. So I decided to post hit hear. Can you believe these guys. Doing it even on camera and in closed waters to sum it all up. It is in video format too. http://katu.com/news/story.asp?ID=61217
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#213465 - 10/03/03 01:14 AM
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Parr
Registered: 08/27/03
Posts: 40
Loc: Pacific Northwest
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Too bad they couldn't be everywhere at once.
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#213466 - 10/03/03 01:24 AM
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Fry
Registered: 08/13/03
Posts: 24
Loc: Tenino
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Those snagger had some guts. They also lacked brains. Glad to see those gamies out there though, and glad to see that it is publicized that they are enforcing some problematic areas. The officers seemed to stay pretty calm and cool during the bust, but it also seemed like they had to dumb down most of their conversations to maybe middle school levels so the people could understand that they broke the law. We need more officers like that, or maybe just more officers period. Thanks for sharing that with everyone
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#213467 - 10/03/03 01:38 AM
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Three Time Spawner
Registered: 03/13/00
Posts: 1830
Loc: Kelso Wa.
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SS, thanks for posting that, 1 of the best story I've seen posted here. I especially liked hearing those in-bred, hair-lips (no offense to you non in-bred, hair lips) claim "they didn't know the rules, their buddy brought them". Yeah, sure they didn't know. Hope the judge throws the book at them.
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#213469 - 10/03/03 08:13 AM
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Returning Adult
Registered: 05/09/03
Posts: 368
Loc: Florida
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Big difference between that white trash and just some folks trying to feed their families.....
I remember the snag-fest that used to go on at the Washougal back in the late seventies but so many back then were having hard luck. Many of them were in their 60's or better. Now it is just worthless POS that could care less about anything. Probably all go to work with bragging stories of the fish "They caught".
Scum, pure and simple. And the guy with the shorts is just one of an ever larger growing population of punk-ass..... We need to have a snagging season on vermin like them..... maybe we could thin them out a bit.....
MC
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#213470 - 10/03/03 10:19 AM
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Spawner
Registered: 12/06/00
Posts: 783
Loc: bullcanyon
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Thanks for posting that story. It was interesting. Them boys are pretty dumb.
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#213471 - 10/03/03 10:21 AM
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Spawner
Registered: 04/30/99
Posts: 526
Loc: Lake Forest Dark, Wa
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Great video...what a bunch of frickin losers! Geez get a life! Idiots like that give sportfishing a black eye. BD
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#213473 - 10/03/03 11:41 AM
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River Nutrients
Registered: 10/04/01
Posts: 3563
Loc: Gold Bar
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I love to see those guys get busted.
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#213474 - 10/03/03 12:16 PM
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The Chosen One
Registered: 02/09/00
Posts: 13942
Loc: Tuleville
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I just wish they had that kind of publicity and enforcement on the NF of the Lewis. Last time I was there, it was a shoulder to shoulder blatant snagfest up at the Meat Hole.
I hate snaggers.
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#213475 - 10/03/03 01:32 PM
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Spawner
Registered: 03/27/01
Posts: 778
Loc: Yuppie Ville
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Thanks SS, That story kinda gives ya a warm feeling all over. I hope that Punk MF in the white shirt and shorts becomes a good wife for Bubba in jail!
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#213476 - 10/03/03 01:56 PM
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Returning Adult
Registered: 05/10/03
Posts: 311
Loc: Vancouver WA
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Parker.. the did a story a couple weeks ago and snagging and enforcment on the north lewis.. very similar in nature...
Grandpa... we agree on something:)
hats off to K2 and WDFW enforcment.. if you happen to see these enforcment guys on the job ask to shake their hand and thank them for the work they do..
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#213477 - 10/03/03 02:20 PM
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River Nutrients
Registered: 11/07/99
Posts: 2686
Loc: Yelmish
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Originally posted by dangerous dave: Great post SS, really enjoyed the video clip. Just wish the news anchor-people wouldn't refer to them as fisherman and just call them plain ole white trash snaggers. i agree! you don't hear hunters that shoot deer out of season with a machine gun called hunters. they're called poachers on a side not, i also hate being called fishers in the local paper. why not anglers? it's just kind of a strange word, like "persons"
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#213480 - 10/03/03 05:29 PM
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River Nutrients
Registered: 10/04/01
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Loc: Gold Bar
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Micro " but when the tribal people do the same thing its ok and they are are enviromental stewarts" And you came up with this load of bull from where?
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#213481 - 10/03/03 05:49 PM
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Registered: 08/14/03
Posts: 478
Loc: Between 2 Mountains
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What a bunch of dum *sses.Glad to see F&G doing something though . These are not fishermen and don't deserve the name !! Thanx S-S for posting I had a good laugh at these sorry IDIOTS.
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#213482 - 10/04/03 12:11 AM
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River Nutrients
Registered: 03/08/99
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Lead thrower...I think he means that it's legal for tribal members to purposely snag fish in rivers. I don't remember the specifics but I do know that this is in the regs or the wdfw site somewhere.
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#213484 - 10/04/03 12:55 AM
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Spawner
Registered: 12/26/99
Posts: 745
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I hope that no good...levis jean cutoff wearing, beer stained, toothless, long haired, eagle claw casting, treble hook tangling, buzz bomb casting, nacho eating, buck tooth yokel gets what he deserves!!!! I swear, salmon fishing around here has turned into a cluster f***, idiot parade. Maybe its something to do with eastcoasters coming over/californian bass masters or what but it seems every year there is more and more or what i mentioned in paragraph 1. I cant wait till it rains!!!!!!!!! sorry for the rant, its been a long week...snaggers
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#213486 - 10/04/03 03:46 AM
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Juvenille at Sea
Registered: 10/14/02
Posts: 128
Loc: longview
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Wow, that made my whole day. Now i know about six more holes just like it that would be monetarily beneficial to DFW also. Cool. I noticed today the Kalama campground was dead, dead. Hmm. Are they enforcing that also?
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#213487 - 10/04/03 05:03 AM
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Returning Adult
Registered: 05/09/03
Posts: 368
Loc: Florida
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Originally posted by lead thrower: Micro
" but when the tribal people do the same thing its ok and they are are enviromental stewarts"
And you came up with this load of bull from where? At the risk of starting another stupid political discussion I have to ask you lead thrower.... You don't keep your eyes open much when in "Tribal" fishing waters do you now..... I have been around many, many indians for years, was married into an indian family that was involved with treaty hunting/fishing, and also saw it up close for years of fishing/guiding on the Columbia River. It happens all the time, and the wanton waste of the resource by tribal members (per capita) is far worse than the general public. I had the Tribal Chief's son once ask me to buy Elk meat from him that was 3 years old. I asked him why he just did not eat it up. He then explained to me that he and a relative (Byron, a good friend of mine.. 1/8th indian) had just shot 8 Elk and he needed to get rid of the old stuff.... True story. When I called said Tribal chief to "report" the crime (I saw blasting a herd into oblivion a crime) he told me that his son was practicing his treaty rights and it was none of my business. I called Oregon F&G and they concurred that the tribal season was in effect from August until February and they did not have control over methods, bag limits, etc..... Open your eyes. Tribal crimes/abuses happen, and no one is saying that all indians are bad people. Just that there ARE bad indians that nearly always get away with abuse of the system by waving treaty rights, and counting on the "saw-Dances-with-Wolves-one-too-many-times" crowd into thinking they can do no wrong.. Abuse of a resource is wrong no matter who or what you are. I just wish the media would cover a story like gill-nets left with rotting salmon in them, or the hundreds if not thousands of Clearwater native steelhead caught in gillnets (although they are "endangered"). But then I guess they would just get accused of running a racist story, or picking on the poor indians, or something to that effect if they did... I am going to fish for salmon on the Umatilla river this next week, and on my trip there last weekend I saw the tribes gillnetting the hell out of the salmon and a group of white guys (married to indians I guess) selling them for $1 a pound at the marina.... I stopped in to check the fish out (like I was an interested buyer) and the fish were pretty warm in the cooler, (lying in water) and I pointed out that 2 of the fish I saw (probably 15-18lbs each) were native steelhead and I didn't think they could sell them. He said "Oh", and threw them into a different cooler in the back of his truck.... You have no idea what you are talking about (apparently you have not seen the abuse), you should not flame someone that obviously has..... IMHO..... MC
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#213488 - 10/04/03 05:07 AM
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Registered: 05/09/03
Posts: 368
Loc: Florida
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Originally posted by bank walker: I swear, salmon fishing around here has turned into a cluster f***, idiot parade. Maybe its something to do with eastcoasters coming over/californian bass masters or what but it seems every year there is more and more or what i mentioned in paragraph 1. Sorry Bud, but it is more due to the fact that we have overidden mother nature and the scum that would die in a non-industrial society are now allowed to live and breed....... Idiots like that are now in every corner of this country and state...... Mother nature would have taken care of them in days of yore...... Now, we do...... Maybe Planned Parenthood should use videos like this to convince some people not to reproduce...... er, never mind, they would probably just think they had just gotten to see a movie for free..... MC
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#213490 - 10/04/03 06:00 PM
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Registered: 08/14/03
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Loc: Between 2 Mountains
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MasterCaster,I have seen rotting ,sun baked salmon in a net that had been there for at least 3 days.The land owner called the tribe (Skokomish) and someone came and pulled It.
Indians ,whites or whatever you should only take what you need from mother earth and not waist!!
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#213491 - 10/04/03 07:17 PM
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Posts: 368
Loc: Florida
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Originally posted by Finaddict Ron: Indians ,whites or whatever you should only take what you need from mother earth and not waist!! AMEN!! You said it man! MC
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#213492 - 10/04/03 09:02 PM
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River Nutrients
Registered: 10/04/01
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Loc: Gold Bar
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MasterCaster OK I did not interpret Micros post correctly. When he said “but when the tribal people do the same thing its ok and they are our environmental stewarts.” I thought he was referring to the fact that people thought it was ethically ok for them to act this way and that he was inferring that public opinion was that when a Tribal member commits illegal acts people deemed it ok. Micro I misinterpreted your post, my apologies for the flame. MasterCaster, sorry you had to do all the typing because of my comment
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#213494 - 10/05/03 06:15 AM
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Posts: 368
Loc: Florida
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Originally posted by lead thrower: MasterCaster
MasterCaster, sorry you had to do all the typing because of my comment No problem...... as you probably know by now I am FULL of typing! LOL You must forgive my long post, but the tribal issues are a real sore spot for me (another thing you probably already know). Being married into an indian family and seeing the tribal goings on for 9 years opened my eyes to a lot........ Hopefully someday it will get better and we will all live together fairly. Cheers! MC
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#213495 - 10/06/03 11:43 AM
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Registered: 12/19/02
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Loc: Oak Harbor Wa
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This was way cool, Im going to forward it to the local WDFG..>>DJ
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#213496 - 10/06/03 12:30 PM
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It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.
Registered: 03/07/99
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Loc: SE Olympia, WA
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I think one difference between these clowns and tribal fishers is that it ISN'T illegal for tribal fishers to snag.
Right, wrong, or otherwise....that's the fact. Only one group is breaking any law.
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#213497 - 10/06/03 10:15 PM
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Spawner
Registered: 03/22/03
Posts: 860
Loc: Puyallup, WA
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Originally posted by micropterus101: I watched the video clip and had to laugh at how terrible it is for non tribal fishermen to snag fish and for some just to take the eggs and leave the carcasses. I think leaving the carcasses is a good thing. Now I'm not saying that these fish should be snagged, and I'm also not one to support snagging. But thouse carcasses are going to a good cause, kind of. Thouse rotting fish will add nutriens to the water that feed insect larva (nymphs), which inturn feed trout and smolts. Even the flesh feeds the trout and smolts. This is why there are no steelhead in Alaska, I believe. The Rainbow trout in Alaska don't need to go to the ocean to find more food as it comes to them in the form of millions of salmon. Our streams are "starving" of crutial nutrients because there are less salmon returning to our rivers. Also, most hatcheries don't put salmon carcasses back into the river systems so this also creats less nutriens for the trout and smolts. Sometimes when I keep a salmon, I fellet it on site and leave all the scraps in the river, giving the hungrey stream it nutrients. The Native Americans did this for thousands of years too, although not for the same reasons. Also I've heard of some places in Alaska and Canada that all the anglers on a river will leave the scraps in the river after filleting the fish. Just my $.02. This probably should have been done under another thread but I did it here.
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