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#214863 - 10/14/03 03:48 AM Illegal harvest of Salmon a big problem...
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Since we have been discussing on several threads the poachers, snaggers, and softly regulated tribal fisheries I thought some of you might be interested in this snippet regarding illegal fishing on Columbia river salmon..... Although I am sure not all of the illegal commercial fishing is carried out by tribal fishers, they do make up for a large percentage of it, and when you add the illegal take to their Boldt 50% it really adds up....

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Meanwhile, surprise sweeps of fishers in the Columbia Basin began in October. Fisheries agents and law enforcement officers from Washington, Idaho, Oregon and Columbia River Indian tribes used aircraft, boats and land vehicles to make unannounced inspections of fishing parties.

During a three-day sweep, the agents contacted 250 fishers and issued 12 citations for various violations. No illegal fish were discovered, but state and tribal officials estimate that 50,000 to 250,000 of the adult salmon migrating up the Columbia are caught illegally each year.

That is between 2 percent and 10 percent of all the salmon and steelhead in the Columbia and Snake system.

"There are enforcement needs from one end of the river to the other," said Lieutenant Andy Meriweather, lower Columbia en- forcement chief for the Washington Department of Fisheries. "Primarily, poaching has a commercial aspect, but it can be done
by either sport or commercial fishermen."

Meriweather said fall probably is the heaviest poaching season because there are plenty of salmon in the rivers, and the eggs of adult females can be sold for a good price. Poachers often leave behind the flesh of adult spawners, he said. In the spring, it's just the opposite. The firmer flesh of spring adults means a good market for whole fish.

"In the past, we've had big operations in which we have recovered tons of fish," Meriweather recalled. "In fact, whenever we have initiated an operation, we've always been able to buy out-ofseason fish."
Sometimes I really wonder with the pollution, loss of habitat, and other variables, how any of these fish survive extinction.....

MC
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#214864 - 10/14/03 09:05 AM Re: Illegal harvest of Salmon a big problem...
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Perhaps it is high time to approach the legislature for a regulation on the taking and selling of eggs???
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#214865 - 10/14/03 11:22 AM Re: Illegal harvest of Salmon a big problem...
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MC, it says no illegal fish were found. 12 citations for 250 fishermen, that's less than a 5 percent violation rate. I'd say that's a pretty clean sweep. Sure its a problem, but this would tend to indicate the tribes are no worse than non-Indians.

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#214866 - 10/14/03 12:12 PM Re: Illegal harvest of Salmon a big problem...
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5% violators, thats great compliance. compared to the sports freshwater salmon anlgers. Go take a look at the skagit during salmon season and you'd see 5, maybe 10 times more violators among the sportsfishermen. I don't think we can criticize the tribes on this one until our own house is in order.

Just my $0.02
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#214867 - 10/14/03 01:15 PM Re: Illegal harvest of Salmon a big problem...
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Just shows how greedy each group is this time of year.(sporties,indians,and commercials) frown
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#214868 - 10/14/03 11:33 PM Re: Illegal harvest of Salmon a big problem...
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Originally posted by salmonbelly:
MC, it says no illegal fish were found. 12 citations for 250 fishermen, that's less than a 5 percent violation rate. I'd say that's a pretty clean sweep. Sure its a problem, but this would tend to indicate the tribes are no worse than non-Indians.
Here we go again with people automatically assuming Tribe bashing...... Note that it was never mentioned that the people checked were Tribal????? It was a sweep of COMMERCIAL fisherman, not tribal. The only point I try to make concerning Tribal fisheries is that they are a lot more loosely regulated than non-tribal commercials, and that many tribal members do not believe that non-tribal authorities have any jurisdiction over them, therefore generally disregarding most regulations handed down from non-tribal "authorities" as not pertaining to them...... Okay???
I think that much of the overtaking of salmon on the columbia mainstem occurs with non-tribal fisherman, tribals are more of a problem, I believe, on tributaries that are much smaller and easier to watch......

MC
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#214869 - 10/15/03 04:53 AM Re: Illegal harvest of Salmon a big problem...
cupo Offline
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Don't forget about bycatch in the equation.

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#214870 - 10/15/03 11:00 AM Re: Illegal harvest of Salmon a big problem...
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"Although I am sure not all of the illegal commercial fishing is carried out by tribal fishers, they do make up for a large percentage of it, and when you add the illegal take to their Boldt 50% it really adds up..."

MC, that's how you started this thread, bashing the tribes. Seems like that's pretty much what you do here.

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