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#215735 - 10/21/03 04:47 PM Re: Snagger Gets Weapons of Mass Fish Destruction
Steve Ericsson Offline
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Registered: 10/31/02
Posts: 531
Loc: Olympia, Wa
How would Snapper know or anticipate whether this guy might jump him, slit his throat and toss him in the river?? You anti-gun guys, the two that posted only not all of you, can't somehow see he was only preparing to defend himself, not take a man's life over some fish. As is his right, he was preparing himself for a potentially dangerous situation. His weapon could have been the only thing to save his life, and everyone elses for that matter. Nobody knows what is the condition of this guys mental state except for him. To say that there needs to be better screening for a CWP only shows you don't have one. Since Snapper does, he probably also is well versed in the laws that apply to concealing a weapon and knows full well how to legally handle a situation. How are you all so certain the guy at the river has a permit to carry a weapon, or gosh, like 90% of people who own a handgun maybe he doesn't have one at all? Maybe he may have shot this guy for bringing back his property.

I think Snapper was only doing this because so many people here jumped on his **** for doing what he felt was right. Now you jump his **** for correcting his actions?? Unbelievable. Mr. Snapper, I for one applaud your efforts to at least do something. Most people would never even have said anything in the first place. The biggest hippocrit is the one that does nothing when faced with the situation he *****es about all the time.
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#215736 - 10/21/03 05:44 PM Re: Snagger Gets Weapons of Mass Fish Destruction
STRIKE ZONE Offline
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Registered: 08/09/00
Posts: 11969
Loc: Hobart,Wa U.S.A
Good for you snapper,Hopefully he will learn from this and his kid's learn a little also.
Good luck,
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#215737 - 10/21/03 06:28 PM Re: Snagger Gets Weapons of Mass Fish Destruction
Dave Vedder Offline
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Registered: 10/09/02
Posts: 8379
Loc: West Duvall
He needed a gun! He was dealing with a known law breaker. Oh yeah, I guess he was a known law breaker too. Well he did need to defend himself. After all, he shouldn't have been too surprised if the landowner thought he was coming back to steal something else. The landowner needed a gun to protect himself from a known thief, (If a man will steal your property in broad daylight then retrun to the scene of the crime he must be pretty brazen. I would want a gun when meeting this guy.) The thief needed a gun to protect himself from somone who mihgt take the law into his own hands, like he had.

Looks like everyone needed a gun. Like my lifetime NRA member friend says, "We will be a lot safer when everyone has a gun."
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#215738 - 10/21/03 06:32 PM Re: Snagger Gets Weapons of Mass Fish Destruction
JK Offline
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Registered: 03/07/99
Posts: 542
Loc: KIrkland, Wa, USA
damn...i see the inbreeding rednecks from Warshington are comin outta the wood work now...why dont u just plug the kids too snapperhead while ur at it...then u can have the river all to urself...a man with no unit and a fish is better than a man with no unit...anyone who supports this guy should be shipped to Darrinton. I swear its gotta be the fall-out from Mt St Helens with u guys that has affected ur thinkin.
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#215739 - 10/21/03 06:45 PM Re: Snagger Gets Weapons of Mass Fish Destruction
cowlitzfisherman Offline
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Registered: 06/14/00
Posts: 1828
Loc: Toledo, Washington
You guys are really a bunch of suckers!!! laugh

You're taking his bait again, and he just keeps feeding you guys more and more line!

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#215740 - 10/21/03 07:06 PM Re: Snagger Gets Weapons of Mass Fish Destruction
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Registered: 12/29/02
Posts: 293
Loc: kitsap peninsula
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#215741 - 10/21/03 07:35 PM Re: Snagger Gets Weapons of Mass Fish Destruction
starcraft tom Offline
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Posts: 424
Loc: marysville
"u" is a letter not a f@#$king word. And the teachers want more money? beathead
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#215742 - 10/21/03 08:26 PM Re: Snagger Gets Weapons of Mass Fish Destruction
John Lee Hookum Offline
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Registered: 10/12/01
Posts: 2453
Loc: Area 51
Quote:
Originally posted by Steve Ericsson:
How would Snapper know or anticipate whether this guy might jump him, slit his throat and toss him in the river?? You anti-gun guys, the two that posted only not all of you, can't somehow see he was only preparing to defend himself, not take a man's life over some fish. As is his right, he was preparing himself for a potentially dangerous situation. His weapon could have been the only thing to save his life, and everyone elses for that matter. Nobody knows what is the condition of this guys mental state except for him. To say that there needs to be better screening for a CWP only shows you don't have one. Since Snapper does, he probably also is well versed in the laws that apply to concealing a weapon and knows full well how to legally handle a situation. How are you all so certain the guy at the river has a permit to carry a weapon, or gosh, like 90% of people who own a handgun maybe he doesn't have one at all? Maybe he may have shot this guy for bringing back his property.

I think Snapper was only doing this because so many people here jumped on his **** for doing what he felt was right. Now you jump his **** for correcting his actions?? Unbelievable. Mr. Snapper, I for one applaud your efforts to at least do something. Most people would never even have said anything in the first place. The biggest hippocrit is the one that does nothing when faced with the situation he *****es about all the time.
How about suggesting that Mr. Snapper go to the authorities and admit his crime or wrong (theft) and have them return items to the victims. This is not about being anti gun or any of that crap, it's about thinking rationally, especially if one has a CWP. Not asking to much of people that choose to bring Gun's into the fishing arena.

I am sure the authorities in charge of issuing CWP's, would have grave concerns, if presented this senario. They don't expect the carrier to creat situations in which they gets to kill people that they ***** about on a fishing board. shoot I would choose to find another hole before killing over an Ol Hatchery Boot. eek

Personally, I only pack if their is a chance that a Grizzly will have me for dinner, not to play God or Law Enforcement officer. Snapper created the danger in the first place by commiting a crime against this guy. How do we teach our children responsibility if the Snagger's or Snapper's want act responsibly? Poor kids! frown

Again, I submit that the best course of action after the theft, would be to go to the authorities and have them help in righting this wrong. There would be no reason for a CWP or Weapon. Why? Because you would have a Police escort or they would return it themselves, with an explanation or apology provided by you. thumbs

I am, by no means an Anti Gun person. I just choose to respect and try having a greater understanding of the reponsibilities carrying a Gun entails, as well as the impact on ones life. I Still think, there should be better screening and education regarding CWP's, as indicated in the above senario.

Who knows, this tread could save someone life out on the water or else where. Sometimes, we need to check our Ego's in at the door, in order to learn and grow as responsible adults.
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#215743 - 10/21/03 09:07 PM Re: Snagger Gets Weapons of Mass Fish Destruction
grandpa2 Offline
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Registered: 06/04/03
Posts: 1698
Loc: Brier, Washington
I honestly believe that anger and guns are a bad mixture. I am not anti-gun but cannot accept the need for a concealed hand gun in this scenario. I think education and accountability need to come into play here. If there was a fear factor I would say it had its roots in guilt. Guilt caused by realizing that punshing a lawbreaker by breaking the law was a poor choice. If I honestly feared for my life I would take my 7 shot Winchester pump with OO buckshot. Nothing concealed. I wouldn't do it because I understand that I would be the one in jail and the dirtbag would sue me and win. And before you start to flame understand that I have walked the walk and talked the talk in a past life. I prefer negotiation to confrontation nowadays. (except for poilitics).
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#215744 - 10/21/03 09:19 PM Re: Snagger Gets Weapons of Mass Fish Destruction
Dave Vedder Offline
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Registered: 10/09/02
Posts: 8379
Loc: West Duvall
Grandpa2 : I know you don't much care what I think, but I think that post was right on target. Good on ya!
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#215745 - 10/21/03 09:28 PM Re: Snagger Gets Weapons of Mass Fish Destruction
grandpa2 Offline
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Registered: 06/04/03
Posts: 1698
Loc: Brier, Washington
Surecatch...don't assume...it makes and A$$ out of U and Me. We don't agree on some things but all is not lost. You never know we might even get along if we kneww each other. Some of by best friends are hopeless liberals.
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#215746 - 10/21/03 09:30 PM Re: Snagger Gets Weapons of Mass Fish Destruction
stlhdfishn Offline
Returning Adult

Registered: 12/29/02
Posts: 293
Loc: kitsap peninsula
gettnsnapper, something smells a little fishey here. 9-15-2003 topic what quil are you talking about and 10-15-2003 topic look daddy i can snag like you. kinda strange that both threads you put up talk about halibut -sturgeon rods 40lb test and fathers that are teaching kids to snag by the way its not a good idea to talk about cwp permits if indeed you have one. c does stand for concealed doesnt it? confused

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#215747 - 10/21/03 09:40 PM Re: Snagger Gets Weapons of Mass Fish Destruction
minibear Offline
Returning Adult

Registered: 11/25/02
Posts: 249
Loc: T-town
Wooooo!

It smells a little fishy in here... umbrella

And I ain't scared umbrella thumbs

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#215748 - 10/21/03 09:53 PM Re: Snagger Gets Weapons of Mass Fish Destruction
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Hmmmmm wasn't the river a bit high and fast on the 19th to wade across to the same exact spot from which those rods were taken? rolleyes

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#215749 - 10/21/03 09:56 PM Re: Snagger Gets Weapons of Mass Fish Destruction
Dave Vedder Offline
Reverend Tarpones

Registered: 10/09/02
Posts: 8379
Loc: West Duvall
Grandpa2: That old tired saw about "assume" drives me nuts. We all have to assume things every day of our life. It's a cute saying but totally nonsensical. Were the word spelled diffrently no one would make cute remarks about assuming. I assume the sun will rise, the river will flow downhill, that we need to drive on the right, that conservatives will defend Bush and liberals will defend Clinton. Sure, some assumption turn out to be wrong, but we have to have a starting point.

Now that I have that rant off my chest, I will say it's possible we could get along. My best friend is as conservative as one can get. He is a lifetime member of the NRA, gave generously to shrub’s campaign and thinks Rush is a prophet. We get along only because we each recognize that someone can disagree with us without automatically assuming they are and idiot, and we both recognize that liberals and conservatives have flaws and often make mistakes. We also find that life is better if we do not discuss politics.
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