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#226260 - 01/05/04 10:36 AM Salmon Stewards
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#226261 - 01/05/04 04:02 PM Re: Salmon Stewards
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Interesting web site grandpa1.

For those unable to click the link a summary is below:


Indian tribes have always lived on every watershed in western Washington. From time immemorial, tribal communities have centered on the natural resources of the region. Today, as co-managers of the area’s natural resources, tribes work hard to preserve, protect and restore salmon, shellfish, wildlife and forests.

To the tribes all natural resources – and the people who depend on them – are connected. The tribes strongly believe that only through working together can we sustain our natural resources.

Tribes across western Washington have been working for decades to restore wild salmon stocks. Tribes have repaired important salmon habitat, significantly reduced harvest, and improved hatchery practices to protect salmon. Despite these efforts, quality salmon habitat is being lost at an alarming rate. Lost and degraded habitat remains the root cause for declining wild salmon stocks. Tribes are fixing fish-blocking culverts, adding wood to streams to create salmon habitat, and removing invasive species that are harmful to salmon.

Salmon, just like people, need clean water to survive. As population has exploded in western Washington during the past few decades, it has brought an increased demand for limited water resources and more pollution. Tribes protect water quality through monitoring and clean up efforts across the region.

The forests of western Washington are the birthplace of the salmon resource. Responsible forest management is key to protecting future generations of salmon. The tribes are working with the federal and state governments, the forest products industry, and others to ensure timber harvests don’t harm salmon. Tribes are monitoring forest practices, ensuring protection of cultural sites and conducting research to improve forests practices for the benefit of salmon.

Increased shoreline development and pollution threaten shellfish in western Washington. Tribes are bringing once widespread shellfish species back from the brink of extinction and are protecting what shellfish resources we have left. Tribes are conducting population surveys, seeding shellfish beds, and monitoring water quality to ensure a safe product.

Elk, deer, waterfowl and other wildlife species have always been an important source of food for tribal communities. As the quality and quantity of wildlife habitat shrinks at an ever increasing rate, tribes protect and enhance the herds that have sustained them for centuries. Tribes are restoring mountain goat populations, enhancing elk herds and fighting wildlife diseases.


Six Things You Can Do To Help Salmon

1. Do the little things to conserve water, such as fix those leaky faucets and toilets. Sweep your driveway or sidewalk instead of hosing it down. When you buy a new washing machine, buy a front-loader. When you buy a new toilet, buy a low-flow model. Both use less water.

2. Recycle used motor oil and fix oil leaks.

3. Instead of washing your car at home, take it to a commercial car wash where soapy water drains to a sanitary sewer, not a storm drain. Many commercial car washes also save water by recycling the rinse water. If you must wash your car at home, use a mild dishwashing liquid and park your car on the grass so the soapy water will be absorbed by vegetation rather than running into a storm drain. Conserve water by using a spray nozzle that shuts off.

4. Dispose of pet waste properly and fence larger animals away from streams.

5. If your home is on a septic system, have your tank inspected annually to make sure there are no developing problems. Get your tank pumped every three to five years to reduce the chance of solids flowing into and clogging the drain field. Use phosphate-free detergents and limit use of bleach.

6. Plant a tree. Near a stream or anywhere else, trees help control and slow runoff.

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#226262 - 01/05/04 05:13 PM Re: Salmon Stewards
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Registered: 10/09/03
Posts: 66
Loc: Anchorage Alaska
Add item 7 to the list:

7) Cut a tribal fish killing net.

(oops, did I say that - smile

Definately, habitat is critical to any given species' environment - and the Seattle and surrounding area definately has way too many people in it...but you just can't buy a "people permit" smile Being new to the area and salmon fishing in general though, I have witnessed many rivers that have perfectly good spawning habitat that simply don't have the fish to do the spawning in the quantities that used to exist. Surely reducing the amount of FISH KILLED by nets would help ensure that the most hardy of the species continues to reproduce???

It seems rediculous to me that the state must introduce hatchery fish into the picture to help the tribes sustain their heritage. I don't think that 'man' has enough knowledge to meddle in such things. JMHO

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#226263 - 01/05/04 05:23 PM Re: Salmon Stewards
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Grandpa,

Reads just like they hired a Republican advertising agency!

t.i.c.

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#226264 - 01/05/04 06:36 PM Re: Salmon Stewards
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Salmo....Sure does! That casino money is buying lots of lobbyists on both sides of the aisle.
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#226265 - 01/05/04 06:59 PM Re: Salmon Stewards
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Registered: 06/14/00
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Yep!

Every time I drive across one the tribes reservations, I can see that they are definitely practicing all "Six Things You Can Do To Help Salmon"

1. Do the little things to conserve water, such as fix those leaky faucets and toilets. Sweep your driveway or sidewalk instead of hosing it down. When you buy a new washing machine, buy a front-loader. When you buy a new toilet, buy a low-flow model. Both use less water.

2. Recycle used motor oil and fix oil leaks.

3. Instead of washing your car at home, take it to a commercial car wash where soapy water drains to a sanitary sewer, not a storm drain. Many commercial car washes also save water by recycling the rinse water. If you must wash your car at home, use a mild dishwashing liquid and park your car on the grass so the soapy water will be absorbed by vegetation rather than running into a storm drain. Conserve water by using a spray nozzle that shuts off.

4. Dispose of pet waste properly and fence larger animals away from streams.

5. If your home is on a septic system, have your tank inspected annually to make sure there are no developing problems. Get your tank pumped every three to five years to reduce the chance of solids flowing into and clogging the drain field. Use phosphate-free detergents and limit use of bleach.

6. Plant a tree. Near a stream or anywhere else, trees help control and slow runoff.

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Give credit where credit is due! laugh

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#226266 - 01/05/04 07:02 PM Re: Salmon Stewards
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#226267 - 01/05/04 07:20 PM Re: Salmon Stewards
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Registered: 10/10/03
Posts: 4756
Loc: The right side of the line
Six Things You Can Do To Help Salmon

1. When you buy a new washing machine throw the old one in the yard with the others. It helps hide all the other garbage on the reservation.

2. When you let your fishing boat sink at the dock just leave it there for a few years. Hopefully it will become fish habitat in 100 years after all the toxins wash out into the ocean.

3. Instead of washing your car at home, Just leave that fluid leaking bucket of rust in the front yard with the rest of the old appliances. Its better if you live net to a stream or wter that drains into a stream.

4. Do not fence mother earth she hates fences.
Let your dogs roam in the customary manner to knock over all the over flowing garbage cans. Let the Sanicans at your boat lauches overflow into the parking lots. When it rains it just washes the human sewage into the the ocean


5. When your septic system fails save the $10 to $25K and just pipe it into an open cess pool. Where you keep your cows and horses works just as well as any place. You can use the money saved for more booze and drugs.

6. Just use the Wild salmon and Steelhead you catch when the markets low and it's too cheap to sell for crab bait. Better yet leave it in the net to rot the scavengers deserve wild salmon and Steelhead just as much as sportsman.


The number one thing the tribes can do to save Salmon. Quit netting and get a Casino job.
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#226268 - 01/07/04 02:13 AM Re: Salmon Stewards
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Registered: 05/09/03
Posts: 368
Loc: Florida
Not sure if G'Pa will agree with me on this, but the link he posted is the "propoganda" that is and has been used so successfully in the past to brainwash the majority of clueless people in this country who then assist the tribes with their aganda and demand the tribes get whatever they want.
Without construeing my statements as racist (been there, heard that), it is the best tactic ever used. I had a Jewish friend (a Rabbi actually) that said to me once that had it not been for the Holocaust, the Jewish nation would have never been a reality. Disallusion and guilt can change the public opinion faster than anything. Not saying that genocide did not occur, we all know it has. But to keep the past wrongs alive and to spew propaganda, such as the "Stewards of the land" BS is the driving factor behind todays general concensus in society that we owe the tribes everything and should expect nothing in return..... The tribes criticize the timebr industry for ruining the watershed yet they live in stick houses... Why not teepees? They criticize the dams for destroying river flow yet they continue to use electricity....why not fire in their teepees? They criticize the "white man" for destroying their way of life....yet they continue to ask and recieve assistance and do a pretty good job of mirroring the greed/selfishness "white man" is known for and embrace the "white mans" way of life...... why not get rid of the casinos and go back to gambling with wampum?
The tribes best spent money is on the people they hire for public relations, and believe me, they hire they best, who I'm sure do a lot of sociological study to come up with such effective ploys such as the link G'Pa has shown us here.....

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#226269 - 01/07/04 11:26 AM Re: Salmon Stewards
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Registered: 06/14/00
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Loc: Toledo, Washington
Maybe this old Indian story still applies to many of the tribes laugh

Indina Lesson One...
An eagle was sitting on a tree - resting...doing nothing. A small rabbit saw the eagle and asked him, "Can I also sit like you and do nothing?" The eagle answered, "Sure, why not"? So, the rabbit sat on the ground below the eagle and rested. All of the sudden, a fox appeared, jumped on the rabbit and ate it.

Indian Learned Lesson...To be sitting and doing nothing, you must be sitting very, very high up.

Indian Lesson Two...
A turkey was chatting with a bull. "I would love to be able to get to the top of that tree; but, I haven't got the energy", sighed the turkey. "Well, why don't you nibble on some of my droppings?", replied the bull... "they're packed with nutrients".

The turkey pecked at a lump of dung and found it actually gave him enough strength to reach the lowest branch of the tree. The next day, after eating some more dung, he reached the second branch. Finally, on the fifth day, he found himself proudly perched at the top. There, he was promptly spotted by a farmer who shot him out of the tree.

Indian Lesson...Bull $hit might get you to the top; but, it won't keep you there.

Lesson Three...
A little bird was flying South for the winter. It was so cold, the bird's wings froze and he fell to the ground in a large field. While he was lying there, a cow came by and dropped some dung on him. As the frozen bird lay there in the pile of cow dung, it began to realize how warm it was. The dung was actually thawing him out. The bird lay there all warm and happy, and soon began to sing for joy.

A passing cat heard the bird singing and came to investigate. Following the sound, the cat discovered the bird under the pile of cow dung and promptly dug him out and ate him.

Indian Lessons learned by the Tribes….

1.) Not everyone who $hits on you is your enemy.

2.) Not everyone who gets you out of $hit is your friend.

3.) And, when you're in deep $hit it's best to keep your mouth shut!!!

laugh laugh laugh

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