Originally posted by moocher man:
for salmon/steelhead fishing in local rivers. I am leaning toward getting a Alvey reel
Moocher Man,
I have quite a few Alvey reels. My son is pictured with one in the avatar. I used to mooch them until I finally swore them off. IMHO, Shimano's Moocher Plus is far superior single action salmon reel, as either a mooching or trolling reel.
The best thing I can say about Alveys is that they are unique; other than that, they are a nuisance. I cannot recommend them, unless you are bank fishing the Big C for sturgeon or surf casting for redtail.
As for "center pins", these are much different single-action reels than an Alvey. They are typically precision made reels that are made for strip casting or designed to waft a float and it's offering softly upon the waters. There are probably few (if any) northwesterners that truly know how to properly use them. For the best advice you'll probably need to talk to our brothers up north or in the mid west. DOWNRIVER and Surecatch would be a couple of great guys to talk to. Unfortunately, while some books will show you center pin reels, there doesn’t seem to be much on the technique itself. It is beautiful thing to watch but it can be very frustrating to learn on your own.
I personally like to fish single action reels (especially vintage ones), but it is more strip casting than true centerpin style. Nevertheless, around here strip casting works very well, as I am reminded by an expert steelheader who exclusively uses this technique. It consists of a typical medium action drift (no trigger) or fly rod (9-11wt?) balanced with a single action reel that is spooled with a thicker 30# test no-mem line like UG or Ande. Terminal offering is the same as any drift gear. You simply strip out the line you want to cast and then flip it where you want it to go. Then like a flyfisher you hold the line in your fingers, maintain tension and feel the drift. Strip back (into a basket if you like) and recast. That’s right, no long distance casting, just cover the water and hook them right in front and below you. Easy.
Another effective center-pin technique on smaller streams, like the Lyre or upper headwaters, is "noodling". You just pick up your long rod up and deposit your offering upstream, watch your float go by and repeat once it tails out. No casting involved.
So as you see, centerpin fishing for steelhead or salmon does not involve long distance casting but generally only brings the reel into play once the fish is hooked, which can really be a blast on a single action reel. Smaller fly reels spooled with mono work fine but the bigger center-pins are preferred for their quicker retrieve. The important thing is to keep it simple. Alveys are just to big, heavy and complicated for this kind of fishing. They were meant to be cast a mile. And aside from that, the biggest problem I have with them are the many grabby sharp edges that always made things more interesting than they needed to be.
Good luck. I hope you’re on the way to a fun way to catch steelhead.