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#229051 - 01/22/04 06:52 PM Re: States That Have Steelhead
Jaydee Offline
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RUSSIA
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#229052 - 01/22/04 07:40 PM Re: States That Have Steelhead
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Registered: 11/07/99
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i hear the kamchatka river in russia is one of the best steelhead rivers in the world...huge numbers of fish

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#229053 - 01/22/04 08:21 PM Re: States That Have Steelhead
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Registered: 03/15/99
Posts: 4166
Loc: Poulsbo, WA,USA
Mexico has some steelhead. They've found them in some creek near Tijuana.
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#229054 - 01/22/04 11:10 PM Re: States That Have Steelhead
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Registered: 01/16/03
Posts: 85
Loc: Seattle
Minnesota north shore has steelies. not sure if they are planting them any more, some residuals survive. Also Canada up the north shore of superior and the rest of the great lakes.

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#229055 - 01/22/04 11:15 PM Re: States That Have Steelhead
GreenSauks Offline
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Registered: 03/11/00
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Chile!!

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#229056 - 01/23/04 12:16 AM Re: States That Have Steelhead
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Registered: 03/22/03
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Loc: Puyallup, WA
There are some on the South Is. of New Zealand I believe. Or where they chinook?
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#229057 - 01/23/04 12:27 AM Re: States That Have Steelhead
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New Zeland scientists did some test tube breeding of some super chinooks if I remember correctly. They were supposedly sterle like triploids, but grew to massive massive proportions. It was in the media a couple of years ago.
As far as steelhead, I don't know. I do know they don't have 'em back home in Hawaii though. Although, these days you never know. If Atlantics are naturally breeding in the pacific...
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#229058 - 01/23/04 01:14 AM Re: States That Have Steelhead
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Rember where all those mid west lake trout, I mean, steelhead came from :p
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#229059 - 01/23/04 09:12 PM Re: States That Have Steelhead
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Registered: 01/19/04
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Loc: Grand Rapids,MI
I live in Michigan and fish most of the Great lakes for Steelhead and the different strains of steel differ in size and fight capabilities.
Here is a link to some of my photos if anyone is interested. GreatLakes steelhead, Kings, cohos, and Browns.

http://img4.photobucket.com/albums/0603/gregknapp/?&action=logout

And Yes Minnesota does get steel, mostly natural small fish.
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#229060 - 01/23/04 09:26 PM Re: States That Have Steelhead
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Registered: 03/22/03
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Loc: Puyallup, WA
steeliefreak: I have a question for you. Why do you guys keep such dark salmon? Do you intend to eat them with a spoon? YUCK!!!

don't take offence to this I just want to know.
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#229061 - 01/23/04 09:32 PM Re: States That Have Steelhead
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Hey fishingjunkie15, I do not keep those unless I need the roe then they go to the garden. I might keep a handful of hatchery steel to give away and for the roe and a few browns as well. But mostly catch and release. Yeah I would never come close to eating a big ugly, some of us have standards over here.
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#229062 - 01/23/04 10:26 PM Re: States That Have Steelhead
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Registered: 01/08/04
Posts: 8
Loc: west michigan
Quote:
Originally posted by CWUgirl:
Sort of on the same topic...

Television fishing shows that feature steelhead seem to be VERY different in the West vs. the great lakes. They all C&R fish, but the midwester TV fishers (that I've seen, I'm sure its not generally true) have little to no knowledge of how to treat steelhead and properly release one. In the few shows that have featured midwest steelhead, they all seemed to pick up fish by the gill plate, let them flop around in their boat, handle much too long, and then toss them back in the water. I'm not sure if their techniques come from fishing for bass and walleye that can take that kind of treatment or if that's just how they do things.... Just struck me as odd.
There's been a serious catch and keep mentality here, which lessens noticeably every year. I've caught fish here in Michigan and all over the Great Lakes and in Washington and Oregon. Our fish might even fight a little better, given proper water temp. Problem is, the water's 32-33 degrees now, and can creep up into the 60's and 70s in the summer and early fall. They don't fight well anywhere in either temperature extreme.

On an apples to apples basis, your rivers have gradient and velocity, our fish are more muscular. It's a wash, except we have waayyyyy more fish. :p

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#229063 - 01/23/04 10:39 PM Re: States That Have Steelhead
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Loc: SE Olympia, WA
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your rivers have gradient and velocity, our fish are more muscular.
Doesn't it stand to reason that more gradient and velocity in the rivers here would lead to OUR fish being more muscular? Those GL fish are just fat and lazy. :p

KIDDING wink
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#229064 - 01/24/04 08:05 AM Re: States That Have Steelhead
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Loc: west michigan
fat and lazy- just like the guy chasing them.

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#229065 - 01/24/04 01:16 PM Re: States That Have Steelhead
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It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.

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Loc: SE Olympia, WA
laugh

You gotta "be the steelhead", right? wink
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#229066 - 01/25/04 12:49 AM Re: States That Have Steelhead
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Registered: 11/06/03
Posts: 3323
Loc: Port Angeles
i watched a fishing show this morning, it was some guys on the niagra river, bouncin lead with a gob of eggs just like we do, and they were landin fat 10-14 pound chromers

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#229067 - 01/25/04 01:32 AM Re: States That Have Steelhead
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Registered: 03/06/01
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Loc: Gig Harbor, WA
I've caught steel and salmon from both the PacNW and the Great Lakes, and my best take regarding tenacity of fight is that it relates directly to water temperature; they sure have their optimal temps,
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#229068 - 01/25/04 11:51 AM Re: States That Have Steelhead
ibjamin Offline
Parr

Registered: 10/19/03
Posts: 43
Loc: Too far south for Steellhead
This might be an interesting site, it talks about the evolution of the the fish that became the steelhead trout. Also the work that is being done to preserve the most southern run of steelhead in the US.

Google search: San Diego Trout

Regards IB

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#229069 - 01/25/04 12:09 PM Re: States That Have Steelhead
fred evans Offline
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Registered: 09/16/01
Posts: 215
Loc: White City, Oregon
There are some on the South Is. of New Zealand I believe.

Yes there are; I've fished for same on the South Island. (Lake Taupo). As their seasons are just the reverse of ours, they're chasing 'winter runs' when we're chaseing summers.
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#229070 - 01/25/04 03:49 PM Re: States That Have Steelhead
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Loc: Grand Rapids,MI
I have fished them on the North Island of New Zealand in Lake Taupo tribs (Tangariro Taupo River) and also at some creek mouths on the South island. They are beautiful fish, only wish I would have brought my float gear.LOL They are difinately migratory rainbows (steelhead) from the larger lakes.
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