http://www.king5.com/localnews/environment/stories/NW_042304ENBfishhatcheriesKC.15531c545.html

Saw this on the news last night. My biggest fear. While everything is turning to clipped only now they are going to reduce hatchery production. Want to eat a fish you're going to have to buy one.

I have seen way more wild fish this springer season than in the previous 3 years. Last year I didnt catch a single native down hear in the Longview area this year I had to release 4. No clue on the few fish I lost. Hope they don't cut production down here too much.

Not destroying fragile wild fish populations.. sounds good to me.

thoes who will complain about this are simply proving a point i have been making for over a year. sport harvesters are completely unwilling to compromise on anything.

I wasn't saying screw the natives I was saying I have actually seen quite a few of them this year. There is a balance out there and it sucks to turn that fish loose but seeing natives show up in fairly decent numbers is showing to me at least that there are room for both natives and hatchery fish.

Copied from a post I made on Bruce's board:

>The release of the principles and recommendations of the Hatchery Scientific

>Review Group (HSRG) marks the culmination of four years of intensive

>scientific inquiry, examination and recommendations for reform of the Puget

>Sound and coastal Washington hatchery system. The HSRGs work ranges from

>specific, science-based recommendations for nearly 1,000 program-level

>changes at more than 100 hatcheries, to a new way of thinking about

>hatcheries, embodied in the HSRGs Principles for Hatchery Management.

>

>The Hatchery Reform Project was formed with bipartisan support in 2000. Led

>by independent scientists and supported by state and congressional leaders,

>the project is a systematic, science-driven reform of hatcheries to achieve

>two goals help recover wild salmon and steelhead populations and support

>sustainable fisheries. Mandated and funded by Congress, the $20 million

>dollar project reviewed more than 200 hatchery programs in ten regions in

>Puget Sound and coastal Washington.

These were the speakers that were at the event yesterday:

Washington Governor Gary Locke

>· U.S. Congressman Norm Dicks

>· Billy Frank Jr., Chairman, Northwest Indian Fisheries Commission

>· Jeff Koenings, Director, Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife

>· Lars Mobrand, President, Mobrand Biometrics and Chair of the HSRG

>· Jim Waldo, Gordon, Thomas, Honeywell L.L.P.

>· Barbara Cairns, Executive Director, Long Live the Kings

I have heard over and over from the anti WSR folks that they wanted to see the science followed. Well, here you go.

For those of you that remember the big doings on this board a while back with Washington Trout, I believe that the HSRG was what WT sued to gain public input on. May be wrong, Todd, Ramon????

More information on this courtesy of The News Tribune.

http://www.tribnet.com/news/story/4999976p-4927838c.html

I hope they do cut hatchery production!!

Time to fix the big mess we have here in Washington!!

"Release Wild Fish" + "Eliminate Inferior Hatchery Fish" = "Release All Fish"

It's a good thing I like fishing for Walleye! Wait... walleye are evil fish also... Oh well, theres always bass... wait! Bass are bad too! Oh well theres always carp, but they taste like crap..

The martians have made contact and it appears that they hate fish...

:rolleyes:

This would be a good thing "For example, the scientists would like all hatcheries to raise fish from native stock, instead of bringing in broodstock from other river systems".

I sure hope we aren't on a path to a CNR only fishery state wide. I was raised on salmon and if it comes to it I want all fishing shut down until stocks rebound. Trash me if you want. I love CNR but I also love eating.

I made this statement last year about the king fishery in the strait. I don't know what the expected clipped to unclipped rate is this year but last year, if I remember right, it was supposed to be 1 in 6 or something like that. At Seiku I saw it far far lower. But let's say 1 in 4. Is it right to encourage fishers to release 6 non-clipped in order to retain 2 clipped knowing the hook mortality is up to 15% (I'm using the columbia springer number from WDFW). So with a total of 3,400 kept clipped that is 10,200 kings released and even with a 10% mortality 1,020 dead. Lower hatchery production but maintain a catch and keep fishery the numbers of dead rise. I think we might be on our last years of king fishing in the strait.

One thing is certain we need to work towards getting all hatchery fish fin clipped. and I try to encourage guys to keep all the hatchery fish they legally can.

It's also entirely possible that it will. How many hatcheries have been totally closed recently and how many have been threatened to close? How many fish does a closed hatchery produce?

Funny how once again you resort to name calling. Alarming our fellow anglers about issues is important. Its something that you also do, however if it doesn't fit well with your WT and WSC angenda then you resort to name calling and attacks. I've seen you do it time and time again. I won't resort to calling your group a bunch of uneducated fat cows, but sometimes I'd like to

Bruce, you are entirely out of line with that remark to AuntyM! I'm quite sure she doesn't need help in defending herself, and I'm not even part of this thread.....until now....but THAT was out of line!

While I haven't read all the posts, I know that we all want more fish to catch. We disagree among-st ourselves continually about how to go about accomplishing that, and sometimes when I read someone else's opinion, it pisses me off....so what? That doesn't give me reason to attack the person.....the belief is subject to attack, and maybe even a group with common beliefs, but not the person. :rolleyes:

I'm sorry AuntyM.

Sincerely,
Chicken Little the boat launch cracker from lamefishin.com.

So Fun5Acers, its ok to call a group of people that don't agree with you fat cows or chicken littles then? I just can't call a individual a fat cow, boat launch cracker or a chicken little? How about calling their website lamefishin.com, is that cool, can I do that? Thats not what I'm doing, I just want to be clear about it.

I edited my post Fun5Acres, I hope it suits you better now.

Bruce, thanks for editing your post - one thing that you would know if you had been on PP for some time, there is/was no one stronger in their condemnation of Washington Trout than Aunty M.

Again, Marsha does not need me to defend her, but you should know the facts.

No problem Eddie, I was out of line by calling AuntyM a fat cow.

Marsha get em

Once again AuntyM makes stupid remarks!!

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