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#243380 - 05/06/04 07:09 PM Add in the Forks paper
Jerry Garcia Offline



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Over on Bruce's board Plunker and Cowlitzfisherman are trying to have a little fun at the expense of the WSC by trying to guess the names of the members of the WSC and then there is a veiled threat of posting the names of WSC members in the Forks paper, here's the quote from Cow

Yep, I hear its going to make a big hit in the Forks newspaaper next week


and then I thought that that is a hell of a good idea--- why not buy an add in the Forks paper-- full page-- with an explaination of why the moritorium and then signed by alot of people that support the moritorium. So what do you think-- is that something you can support, after reading the letter of course.
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#243381 - 05/06/04 07:25 PM Re: Add in the Forks paper
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I'm there.
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#243382 - 05/06/04 07:43 PM Re: Add in the Forks paper
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Finally found the thread. The servers over there are SSSSssoooooooooooo sllllloooowwww...even with high speed DSL it take 5x longer to load than any page here.

That's why I avoid that board...at least it was the reason...now I got a better one.

What the City of Forks might want to do, however, is a quick check with the local guides, motels, etc. and see how much $$ WSC members spent over there in the last couple years.

I am not a member of WSC, but my instinct says I am correct in thinking the amount of $$ support to Forks by WSC members is substantial.

Course, then again I could be full of beans...

Mike

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#243383 - 05/06/04 08:38 PM Re: Add in the Forks paper
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Interesting idea Jerry, however, I'm afraid if there was anyone outside of Jefferson, Clallam, or Grays Harbor County, it would be another case of "outsiders" trying to tell Forks people what to do on "their" waters.
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#243384 - 05/06/04 10:44 PM Re: Add in the Forks paper
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Registered: 01/16/03
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Loc: Seattle
How pathetic. I wonder if Cow-man actually thinks posting little animated lynching icons along with names is going to intimidate anyone. If I were Bruce I'd be very careful, just in case anything actually were to happen. Some of these fellas have a deep misunderstanding of where the powerbase is and the generosity and understanding afforded to them by those who could choose to take another approach. I'm not sure Forks would be happy about a retaliatory full page ad in the Seattle times laying out the other side of the argument. Personally I've been on the fence about the WSR ruling, but veiled threats to personal safety put a line in the sand pretty quick. Is it really worth it?

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#243385 - 05/06/04 11:14 PM Re: Add in the Forks paper
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Jerry
Lets do it!
It fun getting Cow & Plunker going, Myself and another guy where haveing fun with them for a few hours today. (Sorry Plunker, thats more than one line)

PS I allways like seeing my name in the paper (most of the time)
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#243386 - 05/06/04 11:27 PM Re: Add in the Forks paper
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Loc: Seattle
Cow shows his true colors by denigrating Bob's wife. Real class act that guy. Glad that kinda trash is booted from this board. Homer- you got em going all right !

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#243387 - 05/07/04 10:27 AM Re: Add in the Forks paper
Land Tuna Offline
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Registered: 02/22/00
Posts: 142
Loc: Kirkland Wa USA
It's time to forget about the feelings of Forks. We offered them every bit of help imagineable under the sun to insure that the moratorium would be a good thing for forks. It is sad that a few of the original settlers families in that town choose to screw things up because their family members make money off of bonking nates.

Put the add in the Sunday Times ask for support from the public and conservation groups when the public hearing comes up.
I would estimate that we could get between 2 and 3.5 thousand people out of the broad base of over three million people in the Metro area to show up for the next public hearing.

I know there are a lot of good people in Forks because I spend enough time there to know that the majority would support the moratorium if it were not for this type of fear mongering we see with the Mayor, with likes of Bruce and a little old man named plunk.

When people like those above who play the fear game then it is the time that you know the battle is just about won. When people resort to such crap they already know they are going down. I promise you that all those posts over on the other board have been copied and will be given to the commission, to the pols who said they are against the moratorium. They will see the mentallity of those who are against the moratorium and as far as I can see this is now a done deal, we have won. No one is going to bow to the fear of the hate game.

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#243388 - 05/07/04 10:35 AM Re: Add in the Forks paper
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Just so I don't misunderstand you Land Tuna, How do you really feel?
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#243389 - 05/07/04 12:49 PM Re: Add in the Forks paper
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This is too funny.

A threat on one board is comdemned here and then followed with one.

Is it any wonder why sports fishers get the shaft.

The tribes got it. The commericals got it.


But will the sports fishes ever get solidarity?
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#243390 - 05/07/04 12:58 PM Re: Add in the Forks paper
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Could you highlight the threat in this tread T-rex. I'm having a hard time finding a threat.
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#243391 - 05/07/04 01:46 PM Re: Add in the Forks paper
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Registered: 08/14/03
Posts: 55
Quote:
Originally posted by T-rex:
This is too funny.
A threat on one board is comdemned here and then followed with one.
Is it any wonder why sports fishers get the shaft.
The tribes got it. The commericals got it.
But will the sports fishes ever get solidarity?
Amen T-rex...

I posed this question a while back on another thread. I will pose it again..

I and most Table fare fishermen / Women are more than willing to cut the limit on the number of fish we can "Bonk" To allow the C&R fishers to maintain a decent fishing season. Is the Non Table fare fishermen / Women willing to limit the number of fish that they can Catch and release as to allow us to continue to "Bonk" a few?

This is a Yes or No question it is not rocket science.. ;\)

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#243392 - 05/07/04 02:12 PM Re: Add in the Forks paper
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Sure Jerry

"I promise you that all those posts over on the other board have been copied and will be given to the commission, to the pols who said they are against the moratorium."
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#243393 - 05/07/04 03:10 PM Re: Add in the Forks paper
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I guess I didn't recognize it as a threat.
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#243394 - 05/07/04 03:24 PM Re: Add in the Forks paper
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It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.

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Quote:
I promise you that all those posts over on the other board have been copied and will be given to the commission, to the pols who said they are against the moratorium."
That's a threat?

You're grasping............
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#243395 - 05/07/04 03:38 PM Re: Add in the Forks paper
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T-rex
You arms most be really long!
\:D
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#243396 - 05/07/04 05:30 PM Re: Add in the Forks paper
Land Tuna Offline
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Registered: 02/22/00
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T rex,

That was not a threat it was not even intended to come close to a threat. I feel it is important that those who do not support the moratorium and who are responsible human beings should know about this threat by people who believe as they do. No one minds their name in the forks paper but the threats of a hangmans noose and the other BS that goes along with it now that's a different story. I have complete respect for those who are against the moratorium and will go about having their say in the proper way. All most all of us who support the moratorium will support the rights of those against, this is America right! But they should know that their are some folks making some pretty serious threats on their behalf.

River Shrk.
There are many of us who have volentarly cut back on our C&R fishing for just that reason and many more are following. Also many of us who believe in C&R on wild steelhead do eat fish that we catch. I eat flounder, salmon when legal, crab, shrimp shell fish you name it. For many of us we hope someday that we can kill a wild steelhead in the future for the table. We just don't feel it's now because of the dropping # even on the OP. It is sad that there are those who want to paint us as eleitests, most of us are just scratching by like everyone else. God I depend on what I catch on many weeks because the bills some months far out reach my wallet. If the rivers need closing down or a bottom fishery needs to be closed down then lets do it. But we are trying to let everyone still fish those beautiful rivers and trying to do the least amount of damage. It's not perfect idea but it is not going to kill nearly as many fish.

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#243397 - 05/07/04 05:43 PM Re: Add in the Forks paper
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Parr

Registered: 08/14/03
Posts: 55
Land Tuna,
I agree with you in that I too will do what is best for the resource. My concern is that the commission makes too many one sided decisions. There is allot of information on C&R kill rates. How accurate I do not know for sure but have to go with what science has said. That 1 in every 20 fish that is C&R will die. If that is the case Then what is the difference if I C&R 20 fish or I just catch and keep 1. The effect on the resource is the same. The balance that I look for is very simple. For every allowed 20 fish to be caught and released I have the option of fishing and keeping the 1rst fish I catch.. I am not painting elietist marks on anyone. I just want the commission to set regulations with all aspects in mind.. ;\) Find a balance and the majority will be fine with it..

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#243398 - 05/07/04 06:39 PM Re: Add in the Forks paper
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Loc: North Bend, WA
I love the math\logic of the anti-c&r folks.

How about this. 20 C&R guys hit the same OP river. They all catch and release 1 fish each that day.
Total dead fish = 1.

The next day, 20 catch and kill guys show up. They all catch and kill 1 fish each.
Total dead fish = 20.


So do you still think C&R impacts the resource as much as C&K?

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#243399 - 05/07/04 06:48 PM Re: Add in the Forks paper
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PhishPhreak
Your right on, **** most have been hard for them. Will I Or Won't I get flame for say that, lets see! \:D

OK I took parker divea, thanks parker \:D
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