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#246745 - 06/17/04 04:05 PM Sockeye Counts
Fishingjunky15 Offline
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Registered: 03/22/03
Posts: 860
Loc: Puyallup, WA
Can someone give me a link to the Lake Washington sockeye counts? I know the WDFW site has them but they haven't posted any this year yet. I remember Sky-guy posting some daily counts and I'd like to knw were they are from. Thanks.
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#246746 - 06/17/04 04:07 PM Re: Sockeye Counts
Fishingjunky15 Offline
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Loc: Puyallup, WA
Nevermind. I just checked and they are up now.

http://www.wdfw.wa.gov/fish/sockeye/counts.htm
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#246747 - 06/17/04 05:43 PM Re: Sockeye Counts
GutZ Offline
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Registered: 02/08/00
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Loc: Bellevue
Date Daily Count Total Count Date Daily Count Total Count
June 12 1,801 1,801
June 13 1,914 3,715
June 14 1,492 5,207
June 15 2,892 8,099
June 16 2,710 10,809


Only 340,000 more to go!
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#246748 - 06/20/04 12:04 PM Re: Sockeye Counts
Predator Dawg Offline
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Registered: 10/03/00
Posts: 550
Loc: land of sun
So far the run seems to mirror the 2002 run, and is even slightly ahead of it. Another week or two and we should really know how strong it will be. This is a fun time to take the kids down to the locks to see the fish if you haven't done it before.

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#246749 - 06/24/04 11:18 AM Re: Sockeye Counts
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Registered: 12/14/01
Posts: 1191
Loc: Everett WA
Over 5,000 on Tuesday, HERE THEY COME!!!! \:D ;\) :p
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#246750 - 06/24/04 02:04 PM Re: Sockeye Counts
Finegrain Offline
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Registered: 06/05/00
Posts: 478
Loc: Woodinville, WA, USA
I wouldn't bet on a sport fishery this year -- the current counts don't indicate the very strong run that was forecast:

2004 -- 34k fish by 6/22

2003 -- 16k fish by 6/22, 200k total
2002 -- 29k fish by 6/22, 380k total
2001 -- 50k fish by 6/22, 270k total
2000 -- 68k fish by 6/22, 415k total

average 2000 - 2003 -- 41k fish by 6/22, 316k total.
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#246751 - 06/24/04 05:54 PM Re: Sockeye Counts
Seattlerocket Offline
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Registered: 05/12/03
Posts: 34
Loc: Redmond
We need some 20,000 count days here real quick!

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#246752 - 06/24/04 05:55 PM Re: Sockeye Counts
Seattlerocket Offline
Fry

Registered: 05/12/03
Posts: 34
Loc: Redmond
We need some 20,000 count days here real quick!

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#246753 - 06/24/04 06:43 PM Re: Sockeye Counts
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Registered: 02/08/00
Posts: 3233
Loc: IDAHO
Selling for a 1.39 a pound at Alberstons, wonder where it comes from.
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#246754 - 06/24/04 07:04 PM Re: Sockeye Counts
STRIKE ZONE Offline
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Registered: 08/09/00
Posts: 11969
Loc: Hobart,Wa U.S.A
We'll get some 15k to 20k day's here real soon.The numbers don't match up to the previous seasons and or the no fishing seasons.There is more fish over then in the past when we did have a season and fewer then when we didn't get one.Go figure.Let's wait till the first week of July before we start to freak on it.Good luck,
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#246755 - 06/24/04 07:19 PM Re: Sockeye Counts
Erndog Offline
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Registered: 01/22/02
Posts: 271
Loc: Covington
I'm with you Strike Zone. The larger counts should be showing here in the next week or so. I bet we'll be fishing the 3rd weekend of July. That'll be kinda cool if they open it up that 3rd weekend, fish it first thing in the morning Friday than pull out early and head over to the Elliot bubble, hmmm \:D . Come on Sockeye counts .
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#246756 - 06/24/04 09:19 PM Re: Sockeye Counts
Fishingjunky15 Offline
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Registered: 03/22/03
Posts: 860
Loc: Puyallup, WA
Remember that the springers were late this year. Could that be the trend for every run this year?
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#246757 - 06/24/04 09:30 PM Re: Sockeye Counts
summerrun Offline
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Registered: 11/05/00
Posts: 2354
Loc: Seattle
I think they decide next Tuesday/Wed based on counts as of then. Parent run was 2000 and that is where the high expectations came from if you look at those numbers...hope they come flying in soon or I wouldnt bet on a season. Hope I am wrong though...
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#246758 - 06/25/04 01:23 AM Re: Sockeye Counts
Finegrain Offline
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Registered: 06/05/00
Posts: 478
Loc: Woodinville, WA, USA
Quote:
Originally posted by Fishingjunky15:
Remember that the springers were late this year. Could that be the trend for every run this year?
Actually, the 2004 Columbia springer run timing was in line with the 10-year average. The run size was WAY below forecast, however -- forecast was 360,000, actual run was under 200,000.
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#246759 - 06/25/04 02:49 AM Re: Sockeye Counts
Jeff J Offline
Parr

Registered: 08/17/03
Posts: 59
Loc: Issaquah
If the season is a bit late like the 3rd week of July that is just fine, out on the lake with 5000 of my good friends!!!!!

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#246760 - 06/25/04 04:10 PM Re: Sockeye Counts
Fishingjunky15 Offline
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Registered: 03/22/03
Posts: 860
Loc: Puyallup, WA
Why are people not prdicting a season this year? There have been 10k more fish this year than at this time in 2002 and there was a season in 2002.
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#246761 - 06/25/04 04:48 PM Re: Sockeye Counts
Finegrain Offline
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Registered: 06/05/00
Posts: 478
Loc: Woodinville, WA, USA
Quote:
Originally posted by Fishingjunky15:
Why are people not prdicting a season this year? There have been 10k more fish this year than at this time in 2002 and there was a season in 2002.
You can't just pick a year that fits your agenda and run with it. As a counter-example, there are 18k fewer fish so far than 2001, and there was no season in 2001. 4-year average shows 66k fish counted through June 24, and a total run of 318k fish. Some folks have pointed out that this year's run was spawned in 2000, but if you use 2000 counts as your benchmark, you will come up with a total run size of just 193k fish.

I want a season as much as everybody else (already got the extended family hyped up), but realistically the numbers to date don't bode well.
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#246762 - 06/25/04 08:00 PM Re: Sockeye Counts
R Ridgeway Offline
Returning Adult

Registered: 12/04/99
Posts: 286
Loc: Seattle
It's fun to speculate however there's just too much run variability from year to year to say there will or won't be sufficient numbers to have a sockeye fishery at this point. Generally we receive half the run by July 7th. That means we need to average more than 11K fish a day through the locks to be on track for a 400K run that would allow some fishing. More fish...more fishing. If the run peaks later just remember that the same folks that determined the escapement level of 350K will grip their crystal ball and come up with a SWAG.

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#246763 - 07/02/04 03:37 PM Re: Sockeye Counts
Finegrain Offline
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Registered: 06/05/00
Posts: 478
Loc: Woodinville, WA, USA
1/3 of the way there:

July 1 18,359 119,681 total

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#246764 - 07/03/04 03:29 PM Re: Sockeye Counts
bri24 Offline
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Registered: 02/11/03
Posts: 283
Loc: Renton, WA
Here they come!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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